It ain't getting a 'rule of funny' pass from me. Do it right or get out.
Season 3 First Look
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Is there a 'rule of schlock' that gives Genesis and Threshold a free pass?
Probably. If you're entertained by an episode you give it a pass.
"Rule of Past Trek" for me.
It's not a pass but not a fail either if past Trek did something similar.
It's not a pass but not a fail either if past Trek did something similar.
SNW always does it right.
Not happy with Pelia joking about taking LSD in the show. Young impressionable people still watch this, and her usage isn't portrayed in a negative manner (Spock doesn't reprimand her, M'Benga doesn't order a blood scan and order her not to use it again etc.)
I've had a relative's life recently destroyed by secretly using marijuana (caused schizophrenia). Mind-altering drugs are no joke, yet somehow our media is "winking" about it being fine again, legalization of marijuana and now jokes about LSD. It has no place in Star Trek with one of the "heroes" joking about using it.
Seriously considering canceling Paramount Plus after seeing this. Discovery is over. I'm not invested in Academy and I quit Lower Decks years ago. SNW was the only show I watched and now this pretty poor "joke" about drug use happened and I'm just... I might do a one month thing just to watch S31 movie but other than that...
I've had a relative's life recently destroyed by secretly using marijuana (caused schizophrenia). Mind-altering drugs are no joke, yet somehow our media is "winking" about it being fine again, legalization of marijuana and now jokes about LSD. It has no place in Star Trek with one of the "heroes" joking about using it.
Seriously considering canceling Paramount Plus after seeing this. Discovery is over. I'm not invested in Academy and I quit Lower Decks years ago. SNW was the only show I watched and now this pretty poor "joke" about drug use happened and I'm just... I might do a one month thing just to watch S31 movie but other than that...
This is silly. But really not in a funny, bonkers, cartoon-crossover, musical way.
More in a Season 7 & slowly running out of good ideas way.
Like, I think when we see the episode it will be half okay and flow nicely.
But I really wonder why they chose THIS to promote the new season!?
This is a show with a long history of alcohol related humor. Think about that
Pelia is basically an undying Space Hippie. Making a harmless little joke about her taking LSD is hardly worth clutching any pearls. You'd see worse jokes on The Simpsons 30 years ago. Hell, Voyager Home made an LDS joke in the 80's.
As for your personal hangups with Marijuana, they sound a little... old fashioned and clearly outdated. Like most things, Marijuana is fine in moderation. Its continuing legalization around the world was a long time coming. Don't like it? Don't do it. But don't judge those who enjoy it. It's certainly no worse than alcohol.
Which reminds me, I need to slip down to the dispensary! We're outta edibles and Friday night is coming!
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There are risk factors for young people using it leading to schizophrenia. Research is showing a connection there.
I agree on adults but the challenge is that younger people are using it (I've seen it) and that comes with risk.
Thank you. I will add adults can still get it using Marijuana if they are 20s early 30s
Of course I don't think kids should be taking it.* That's why laws are in place, just like with alcohol. Should alcohol and drunk behavior not be shown on television? Will children not potentially be influenced to consume alcohol?**
*making me a hypocrite, because I absolutely smoked a little weed highschool. Who didn't? But, as with alcohol consumption, moderation is the key.
**Yes, they will be influenced. That's what parents are for. To teach their children the dangers of becoming dependent on a substance.
The NIH says there is a risk for people who have schizophrenia.
Personally I don’t drink or take drugs. Never really have. Don’t care for either. But I’m not going to get my knickers in a twist over a joke or two. And this coming from a guy whose brother is a recovering addict (he now counsels addicts) and has seen the damage firsthand.
I'll ask this. Should alcohol be shown or joked about in Star Trek? It's a damn sure fact that alcohol has destroyed far more lives than LSD or Marijuana.
I believe the risk is until 25, based upon last research training on psychosis I attended. The younger the use, the greater the risk though it is not the only risk factor.
I didn't.
I'm sure many did. Just wasn't on part of my circle of friends, even in college.
I will preface this by saying that I do not make recreational use of any pharmacologically active substance, and I strongly disapprove of recreational drug use. And I have never understood the appeal of such use; on the rare occasions when I have had even a slight buzz, either from a particularly strong prescription or from one occasion when I downed a triple-dose of cough syrup by mistake, I found the sensation of being in less than complete control of my senses to be one of the most revolting I'd ever experienced. (And when I get a colonoscopy, I explicitly request that the sedation be kept light enough to keep me conscious, lucid, and able to enjoy the guided tour of my lower intestine; at the last one, the doctor was good enough to narrate, and I never did pass out.)
That said, out of the four biggest "killer drugs," the four that have, over the course of Human history, caused the most morbidity, three of them are highly addictive, eliciting tolerance, physiological dependency, and painful, and sometimes life-threatening physiological withdrawal. The exception is cocaine: a killer, to be sure, but not exhibiting those characteristics, at least not to the extent of the other three.
Out of the three most addictive drugs, all three of them killers, all of them undisputedly causing severe physiological addiction, two of them are also the two biggest gateway drugs, i.e., they lead to other, unrelated drugs. The exception is opiates and opioids, as a class. They generally only lead to other opiates and opiods.
Out of the two biggest gateway drugs, both of them highly addictive killers, neither is currently illegal for adults in the United States (and most other countries), one of them has never been illegal for adults, although it has lost much of its social acceptability (and is highly restricted in most public places), while the other retains its social acceptability, and is occasionally still the subject of positive health claims (such as the absurd notion that it is necessary for proper absorption of certain nutrients). What are these highly addictive killer gateway drugs? Ethanol and nicotine.
Marijuana is not even on the radar here. Neither, for that matter, is LSD.
I don't drink any alcohol and don't smoke, and I definitely was not happy with the way the character of Rios was used to glamorize both activities on Picard. I'm not happy about it, but smoking and drinking are so ingrained in our culture (unfortunately) that you have Gandalf smoking etc. in LOTR and I just accept that's how it was written back in the 1950s.
That being said, just because a problem exists doesn't mean you need to continue it or, in the case with Pelia casually mentioning using LSD, add to it. Hey it's Paramount's show and they can have their characters say what they want and that's fine, but I don't have to watch it anymore.
The person in question in my experience was older than 25 when it happened by a few years.
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