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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x08 - "Labyrinths"

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Yeah. It would be nice to actually make NEW species.
Really, the only one we got from Discovery was Kelpians.
I don't mind expanding on aliens that haven't had any development (The Gorn, the Breen), but I was hoping for something a little more alien from the Breen than squishy Klingons.
We also got Species 10-C and a not-insignificant bit of lore about them, their history, their language, and their technology.
 
We also got Species 10-C and a not-insignificant bit of lore about them, their history, their language, and their technology.

Okay, so, two.
In contrast, by season 5 of TNG we had the Q, the Borg, the Cardassians, the Bajorans, the Betazoids, the Trill, the Ferengi plus species like Bolians, Nausicaans, and Chalnoths
Season 5 of DS9 had also given us Vorta, Jem'Hadar, Karemma, Founders, and Breen.
Voyager by season 5 gave us Kazon, Vidiians, Species 8472, Ocampa, Talaxians, and Hirogen.
ENT gave us Suliban, Xindi, and Denobulans.
So, I kinda wish we'd have gotten something more like that. But oh well.
 
Well, three. Four if you count the big cranium, squid like alien who's frequently part of the Discovery bridge crew.

So tied with ENT at bare minimum.
 
Very cool about the library...here's a nice write up about it.

https://www.utoronto.ca/news/learn-...y-becomes-eternal-archive-star-trek-discovery

I have to say the production crew did a really good job of preserving the aesthetics of the actual library and adding elements to make it look so vast.
Yeah it's very symmetrical so it was probably easy to mirror it to make it look big. I'm going to assume they didn't try to mask any of the books though, which would mean the books you see on screen are the actual books on the shelves, but I didn't pause to try to read the spines.
 
Yeah it's very symmetrical so it was probably easy to mirror it to make it look big. I'm going to assume they didn't try to mask any of the books though, which would mean the books you see on screen are the actual books on the shelves, but I didn't pause to try to read the spines.

Yeah they did indeed leave the real books. Very cool.
 
My Trek Fu failed me. I had to look up "Chalnoths". It's why I stick with TOS. Less to remember. :lol:
 
Obviously not, since Discovery is rising in streaming "ratings" and in the Top 10 (or maybe Top 5).
It was number 8 of 10 for streaming originals during the period of April 15-21.

However, it didn't crack anywhere near the top 10 of general streaming ratings for that same time period.
 
That was also the very first episode to show a Bolian female or a Bolian with hair.
 
Pretty sure it was. "Allegiance" introduced both the Chalnoth and the first Bolian that wasn't a bald male.
 
Regarding DISCO having a low number of new aliens...

I have to agree, it's a smaller amount than previous shows. Even if you go by episode number than season number, which I think is a more fair comparison since DISCO seasons are about half the amount of the legacy shows.

"Labyrinths" is the 63rd episode of DISCO. The other series' 63rd episodes (by production order) are...


TOS: "IS THERE IN TRUTH NO BEAUTY?"
TNG: "Yesterday's Enterprise"
DS9: "VISIONARY"
VOY: "BEFORE AND AFTER"
ENT: "CARPENTER STREET"

By this point of each series, here are the recurring aliens...

TOS had... Orions, Romulans, Klingons, and Andorians. (I don't count others like Tellarites and Medusans because it isn't until later in the series or in other shows that they appear again.)

TNG had... Q, Betazoids, Ferengi, Benzites, and Bolians.

DS9 had... Changelings, Lurians, Hupyrians, Boslic, Vorta, Jem'Hadar, and a myriad of background aliens.

Using VOY as a comparison may not really be fair, since a vast majority of aliens they meet would be one-offs because of the nature of the series. Even still, VOY had more new recurring (two episodes or more) aliens than DISCO: Talaxians, Ocampa, Nacene, Kazon, and Vidiians. (I don't count the Krenim from "BEFORE AND AFTER" because at this point, we only saw their ships.)

ENT had 9 recurring... Denobulans, Suliban, Tandarans, Kreetasans, and Xindi. (I'm counting all 5 types of Xindi as separate, since they were each different.)


By the 63rd episode of each of the previous shows, they had already equalled or surpassed DISCO on just recurring aliens. Most certainly a great deal more one-offs appeared. Which is rather baffling, considering it's taking more time to shoot each episode and more money is spent on DISCO episodes than in the previous ones.
 
I just did a count of how many people voted on the episodes this season, based on the poll in each thread. (I coubted ALL votes, rankings 1-10.) So far...

Episode 1...132 votes
Episode 2...104 votes
Episode 3...92 votes
Episode 4...107 votes
Episode 5...110 votes
Episode 6...102 votes
Episode 7...88 votes
Episode 8...58 votes


Now, "Labyrinths" did premiere only yesterday, so the number may increase. But it's definitely much lower than the others.
They are testing my fandom and I can't imagine this season being must-watch-on-day-one for anyone.
 
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