Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x06 - "Whistlespeak"
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Michael told the guy they would teach them how to maintain the tower.
If I taught you how to skat, would your descendants in 900 years be able to skat? Passing on informational generationally is involved.
The Denobulans probably assumed that before the towers broke down in a few hundred years, that these aliens would muddle through an industrial revolution and maybe even an atomic age before they start breathing dirt.... And I'm guessing that what ever periodic or automated maintenance they set up to keep these people alive (which justifies the prime directive, let them die now, or spend the next million years working your ass off and paying through the nose, to keep them alive.) was interrupted by The Burn.
Can someone explain to me why wiping the aleins" short term memory wasn't even brought up as an option to avoid breaking the
the prime directive? Yes yes they would probably decide against it and /or they could not do it medically. But why not at least bounce it about as an idea or contrarian viewpoint?
the prime directive? Yes yes they would probably decide against it and /or they could not do it medically. But why not at least bounce it about as an idea or contrarian viewpoint?
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Unless Michael also gave them Replicators that's kind of meaningless.Michael told the guy they would teach them how to maintain the tower.
After all, you can only maintain what you have parts for.
The fact is, the only way that race is not doomed is if either A) Someone fixes the planet. B) Someone moves them to another planet. Because with that little space it's just completely past the point where they can actually develop as a civilization.
It doesn’t make sense that she would say it and not do it completely. Whatever that entails.
I’m willing to take her at her word.
Hardly.
Idk, why was it not brought up in a vast majority of PD episodes?
Actually from my memory it was when there was isolated exposure. Pen Pals, Who watches the watchers, the one with Worfs foster brother came to mind right away. In TNG they said it was a special technique perfected by Dr Pulaski. Not so much in TOS but this is the 32nd century. You would think that technology/technique only got better and easier to execute.
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Maybe somebody recognized Pulaski's memory erasing technique for the horrific violation of a person's rights that it is. That never sat right with me.
Maybe teaching them how to maintain the tower wasn't compatible with erasing their memories. Just a thought.
This was a better than average episode, easily in the top ten of the whole series.
This was a better than average episode, easily in the top ten of the whole series.
It really was.
Not disagreeing necessarily. But it was odd that it wasn't brought up in discussion considering how serious violating the Prine Directive is.
Violation of rights.
Was it ever established this viewpoint is Starfleet policy? Ofcouse we can just assume that but I don't think we know for sure.
No, but it fits, especially given Phlox's horrified view of the Organians using similar methods.
Not sure why it needs to be an established policy.
But Michael didn't do it completely.
Teaching a bronze age civilization to maintain space age technology is the work of years. And the Discovery left at the end of the episode.
The most she could have done is either leave instruction manuals or instructors behind. And that's far from "doing it completely".
Well it fits in television writing being evolved but not so much in Trek canon. ENT is 200 years before TNG but in TNG it was an accepted practice. But you also can make the argument that "rights " and "morality" are subjective. Organians are super evolved and yet they have no moral issues. I don't think it's a black and white issue.
Memory Wipes for members of pre-warp civilizations were standard Federation procedure in the 24th century as shown in the episodes Pen Pal's, Who Watches the Watchers, and Homeward.
Yeah I mentioned that in my previous post ( cited those exact episodes). I guess the debate is whether this policy changed / should change by the 32 century. I'm undecided on the morality of this practice.
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It doesn't particularly matter in this case.
The giant atmospheric forcefield dome sectioning off a portion of the planet is kind of telling that something otherworldly is going on.
Because Disco is the only ship in the fleet and Burnham the only person capable of teaching anyone.
Which is why a written policy is less needed and more discussion needed.
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