Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x06 - "Whistlespeak"

[Sigma101]

Throwaway episode. The aliens/natives were cardboard cutouts seen a thousand times before. Just absolutely no creativity there. None of the character development worked for me, and the plot was paper thin. I suppose that whole point of the episode was about a one line analogy about unintended consequences and integrity. Instead of proving this with actions we just get standard Federation modus operandi. Just really shallow. We don't know if the Federation is on the up and up which should be a major theme of this season, not just a survival thing (since we got a glimpse of the possible future).

The Starfleet intelligence or whatever he is, Dr. Kovich, is as shady as it gets (not unlike Section 31) so I would not assume the Feds have the integrity to have all the power the creation tech would give them. I do like that Burnham basically said at the end of episode that she hopes they do which could be a subtle way to show that maybe the Feds don't have the best intentions. So the episode is a missed opportunity at least show exactly that most of the Federation would have the necessary integrity. We just get to assume that they do until the twist.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I want to see an episode eventually where they let the sweet naive aliens die.

Theoretically the story where the brave Captain risks their career and command of their ship by breaking the most important law in their culture, is only supposed to happen less than %1 of the time.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

I am finding episodes of Voyager more interesting than this, and this is pretty dire for me as I dislike Voyager.

For this last episode, I fast forward to the bits that interested me. I did this after watching the teaser, knowing where it was heading and being unwilling to spend an hour to get to the end. I have not seen the episode in its entirety.

 

[Tosk]

I want to see an episode eventually where they let the sweet naive aliens die.

Theoretically the story where the brave Captain risks their career and command of their ship by breaking the most important law in their culture, is only supposed to happen less than %1 of the time.

Didn't they kind of do that in Dear Doctor? They didn't let them die on the spot, but they didn't give them a cure or a warp drive. They gave them medicine and said, "Eh, maybe you'll figure it out yourself eventually. Peace!"

 

[Guy Gardener]

Didn't they kind of do that in Dear Doctor? They didn't let them die on the spot, but they didn't give them a cure or a warp drive. They gave them medicine and said, "Eh, maybe you'll figure it out yourself eventually. Peace!"

There was no Prime Directive in Dear Doctor.

Early days.

 

[Tosk]

There was no Prime Directive in Dear Doctor.

Early days.

Archer knew it was coming though*, so he should have known better.

*He got told about it off-screen by one of the future guys in a scene I just made up.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Archer knew it was coming though*, so he should have known better.

*He got told about it off-screen by one of the future guys in a scene I just made up.

It was already a space law for the Vulcan expeditionary fleet, that T'Pol was advocating, and Phlox throwing shade at, but yes it was because of precisely this moment that....

Was General Order One the first general Order they thought of, or did the order/numbering of the General Orders keep changing whenever they would have to invent and insert a new general order into the Star Fleet Charter?

 

[Fantasy Lover]

I'd like to remind all the fat shamers that Lizzo has an intense work out schedule, so shame to all of the doubters

 

[Guy Gardener]

I'd like to remind all the fat shamers that Lizzo has an intense work out schedule, so shame to all of the doubters

Burnham time traveled back to season one a few weeks back, where season one Tilly was bigger than I remembered.

Whatever is going on with Mary, it's possible that we jumped Time tracks at some point, and this was never a timeline where Tilly was little.

 

[Daedalus]

It was an enjoyable episode and quite classic in tone and style. It reminded me of mid-season DS9 or VOY episodes that usually involved lower-ranking bridge officers.

However, I do think Rayner and Tilly would've made the episode more interesting. It seemed like they started to created an interesting relationship of opposite styles with those two, but it hasn't been followed up yet.

 

[Elaise]

I'd like to remind all the fat shamers that Lizzo has an intense work out schedule, so shame to all of the doubters

Who? either way when was the last time we saw tilly work out. Last time I remember she was a lot thinner.

 

[cooleddie74]

Why do you care?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Who? either way when was the last time we saw tilly work out. Last time I remember she was a lot thinner.

Jack Black's girlfriend in a Star War.

 

[cooleddie74]

Mary Wiseman's not going to date anyone here. Don't worry about how "big" she is.

 

[UssGlenn]

They also seem to have forgotten that Gray used to have a symbiont. He was never shown dealing with the loss of Tal. He just writes it off like it never happened.

This version of Gray is only made from the Gray parts of Tal's memory, so from his perspective he hasn't lost anything.

Didn't they kind of do that in Dear Doctor? They didn't let them die on the spot, but they didn't give them a cure or a warp drive. They gave them medicine and said, "Eh, maybe you'll figure it out yourself eventually. Peace!"

Yes, and its the one episode they should have helped, and then had it blow up in their faces later.

 

[SJGardner]

Me when I stop playing video games for a minute to check the thread and see the Tilly affair still going on (artist's concept)

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[IMC Headquarters]

 

[fireproof78]

Kirk goes toe to toe with Spock in Amok Time after seeing Spock handily beat him in this Side of Paradise and no one bat's and eye.



Kira beats up Klingons, and no issues.

Never saw these people work out either, aside from one scene.

Tilly wins a rave and somehow that's a problem?

 

[Fateor]

I want to see an episode eventually where they let the sweet naive aliens die.

Theoretically the story where the brave Captain risks their career and command of their ship by breaking the most important law in their culture, is only supposed to happen less than %1 of the time.

They did let them all die.

Oh sure they fixed the tower for now, but it's going to break down again eventually and then it's lights out for the species.

Assuming there's even enough of them left to keep the population up after 900 years population shrinkage due to the Denobulans who built the tower being horrible people.

 

[cultcross]

2 Funny things to note. The feds in the 32nd century lost a 800 year old escape pod going warp 2. Second thing is fat out of shape Tilly won a marathon, rofl.
Kind of boring episode, nothing really interesting was mention or done. So why didn't they bring up the other towers before leaving like they planned, didn't they teach them how to. I'm trying to remember more of this episode, but I just watched it and nothing is coming to me.

When Burnham said she is not a god, I doubt she believed that. Though they are trying to bring a more down to earth Burham this season, rather than godhood Burnham.

Who? either way when was the last time we saw tilly work out. Last time I remember she was a lot thinner.

One of these was before, one after, my warning about this topic. Therefore, as promised, your privileges for this thread have been removed. If you take it to other threads, infractions will follow immediately.