Spoilers Variety about the future of Star Trek

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Visitor1982, Mar 27, 2024.

  1. UssGlenn

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    from the article:
    I'd hate to see that happen. But the whole reason SNW is in Toronto is because it's too expensive to film in California.
     
  2. Danja

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    Selling off your own studio lot is not a practical means of running a film studio.

    They might sell portions of it, but I can't see them selling the whole thing.

    Paramount Global has a great many obsolete legacy broadcast assets that can easily be shed without selling the studio space. They've been engaged in surgical restructuring for some time now.
     
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    Without a studio lot, what's even the point for Paramount's continued existence? Little more than a bank account for the shareholders? Adolph Zukor must be turning in his grave.
     
  4. fireproof78

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    How do you think they're keeping the power on?
     
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    Renewable energy! :techman:

    California is on the cutting edge once again! :guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:
     
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    You get used to the ever-present background rotational hum of the Zanuck's, Mayer's, Warner's, and others' graves after the first few months in Los Angeles.
     
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  7. Serveaux

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    Since when?

    Most studios got rid of their downtown L.A. spaces decades ago. 20th developed their backlot as commercial real estate in the 1960s.
     
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    Grave turbines are underappreciated power generation.
     
  9. F. King Daniel

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    Just like Berman and Braga being on record as not having watched all of TOS when they made a prequel to TOS.
     
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  10. StarTrek1701

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    Don't think I was clear in what I meant or you understood me wrong.
    Star Trek 2009 was a big hit as hits could be for a 2009 film.
    Paramount should have put full force of its arsenal on it like Marvel did to the MCU after Iron Man 1 in 2008.
    We could have had a Pine/JJ Trek movie every 2-3 years with good management, new stories and engaging the audience in many other ways like ordering a new tv show set in the Kelvin Timeline, games or other conventioned, etc.
    But Paramount just sat there twidling its thumbs and let JJ go and make some damn alien movie nobody remembers.
    Between STXI and ST:ID, 2009-2013 we only got two Kelvinverse films, yet in the MCU the entirity of Phase 1 was completed, Iron Man 1 - Avengers 1.
    Yeah you could say the MCU ain't that hot these days but they had an iron grip in Hollywood for over a decade, Paramount could have had that too and we could have had an entire library of perhaps 6-8 movies set in the Kelvin Timeline.
     
  11. StarTrek1701

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    Dead as in the ROI in that universe isn't as hot as it could be or imo, should be.
     
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    They were the stewards of Star Trek for a long time by then, them not seeing the entire 69 eps of TOS isn't a big deal, but Jessica Gao read zero comics before taking on the role of showrunner for She-Hulk.
     
  13. fireproof78

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    And what should it be?
     
  14. The Wormhole

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    There were plans in place for most of that. STID got the greenlight a month before Trek XI was even released with a planned premiere in 2012, three years later. That got postponed because Orci and Lindelof got into an argument over whether Khan should be in the movie or not, which resulted in an entire year in which no writing was being done on the script. There were Kelvin timeline novels planned to be released in 2010, though those got mysteriously pulled almost immediately after their front cover images and back cover blurbs were made public, while tie-in comics didn't come until 2011 because Bad Robot insisted on having direct supervision over them. There supposedly were talks for a TV series set in the Kelvin timeline which if you believe some sources were abandoned because Paramount wouldn't bow to Abrams's request to suspend all ties to the previous Trek shows and focus all merchandising on the Kelvin timeline.
    Your opinion on what that franchise could or should be doing does not constitute it being "dead." Indeed, with a movie due out in theatres later this year and four more in development it's hard to take the claim that it's a dead franchise seriously at all.
    "Stewards of Star Trek" Interesting title to bestow upon them. Maybe Berman was in charge of things for a decent amount of time at that point, but Braga only had two season of Voyager in which he had an actual position of responsibility.

    And TOS had 79 episodes. That's quite the embarrassing mistake for you to make.
     
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    Remember, JJ planned a big Trek cinematic universe with films, TV shows, games and comics but his plans were denied and a very very similar plan (without the movies) was put into place shortly after with Paramount+. There's more layers to it, studio execs clashing with different ideas.
     
  16. fireproof78

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    I really wish Abrams had gotten his way.
     
  17. Noname Given

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    79 episodes (80 if you count the original pilot The Cage.)
     
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    She-Hulk was great. More showrunners should avoid comics.
     
  19. fireproof78

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    Better count the Cage.
     
  20. Serveaux

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    I have to rewatch parts of those movies frequently because my wife likes Chris Pine them.

    At one time, I liked them too. But they are not good movies.

    After Abrams' work on Star Wars, I don't really want to see him do anything ever again.