Spoilers I think I cracked "Calypso"

[Lord Garth]

Someone might ask, "If the Discovery crew has acclimated to the 32nd Century after a while, why didn't Georgiou's body acclimate to the Prime Universe?" My answer to that is Georgiou hadn't been in the Prime Universe as long as the Discovery crew have now been in the 32nd Century. Months versus at least a year or more at this point. So that could make the critical difference.

Last I'll say about this whole thing. I've posted my theory, and now I'll wait to see if I'm:

Right
Mostly Right (at least two-thirds)
More Right (at least half)
Half Right
More Wrong (at least half)
Mostly Wrong (at least two-thirds)
Wrong

If I'm even at least Half Right, that'll be something.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

I am rewatching Star Trek from the beginning and I am developing more of an appreciation of what Kurtzman Star Trek has got correct.

As for the question about what was happening to Georgiou, a TNG episode, "Parallels", might give something of an answer:

DATA: I have found the quantum flux in Worf's cellular RNA extends to the subatomic level. It is asynchronous with normal matter. In essence, Captain, Mister Worf does not belong in our universe.
RIKER: What?
DATA: All matter in the universe resonates on a quantum level with a unique signature. That signature is constant. It cannot be changed through any known process. It is the basic foundation of existence.
RIKER: Are you saying that Worf's quantum signature is different from ours?
DATA: Yes, sir. I cannot explain it. It is as if he originates from a different quantum universe.

The ship that appeared in "Calypso" is not the same ship that is DIS Season 5. When "Calpyso" appeared, Discovery was in a state of transition and there was chaos in the producer's office. This was very evident in Season 2 where it felt there were two separate and competing stories in the season.

 

[Tuskin38]

The ship that appeared in "Calypso" is not the same ship that is DIS Season 5. When "Calpyso" appeared, Discovery was in a state of transition and there was chaos in the producer's office. This was very evident in Season 2 where it felt there were two separate and competing stories in the season.

Well it has been said since Season 3 that they would like to try and tie into Calypso, after all the chaos.

 

[Tuskin38]

I mean he could be human or he could be an alien that just happens to look human like Book.

Some of the early concept art for Book's ship calls it 'Craft's ship'

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/1xa213

So it's entirely possible in very early versions of Season 3, they were going to have Craft, not Book.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Some of the early concept art for Book's ship calls it 'Craft's ship'

Yeah, I think Calypso represents the Phase II idea for how it was supposed to go.

 

[fireproof78]

So it's entirely possible in very early versions of Season 3, they were going to have Craft, not Book.

It's like Craft beer but bigger.

 

[Tuskin38]

Also at one point in Development he was called 'Beck'

 

[fireproof78]

Also a beer.

 

[F. King Daniel]

A shame we never got the Federation versus the Vadaresh.

Yeah, there was great potential for a Federation splinter group to have gone bad. It was likely suggested and keboshed because CBS are very protective of their "good guys". That's entirely speculation, though.

 

[Dukhat]

Some of the Emerald Chain folks referred to the Federation as the V'Draysh already at the beginning of Season 3, which implies it's already a term.

One guy used the term in the first episode, and then it was dropped entirely. Most likely because the "V'Draysh" and the Federation we see in DSC season three have absolutely nothing in common, so they retconned the term away.

I am inclined to believe that the Federation we know and love are the same entity as the V'Draysh. There is no evidence to the contrary. And for all we know, Alcor IV were the aggressors.

There's tons of evidence. The V'Draysh as described in "Calypso" have zero in common with the 32nd century Federation. Yes, at the time Calypso was produced, 'V'Draysh' was supposed to be a sycope of 'Federation,' but the world-building DSC has done since then pretty much invalidates whatever Calypso had in mind.

Honestly, there's really no reason to try to shoehorn in Calypso with DSC now, as the whole concept of that Short Trek is completely different than what was eventually produced. Let Calypso be its own thing unrelated to anything else. Of course, that's not going to happen because these producers fucking love that shoehorn.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Honestly, there's really no reason to try to shoehorn in Calypso with DSC now, as the whole concept of that Short Trek is completely different than what was eventually produced. Let Calypso be its own thing unrelated to anything else. Of course, that's not going to happen because these producers fucking love that shoehorn.

I mean it wasn't a shoe horn but foreshadowing that went in a different direction like "Conspiracy." It's also a great episode.

 

[Dukhat]

I mean it wasn't a shoe horn but foreshadowing that went in a different direction like "Conspiracy." It's also a great episode.

You misunderstand. I'm saying Calypso is fine on its own, without it being explained in DSC season 5. It's like a later TOS episode trying to explain why James T. Kirk's middle initial was R in WNMHGB. It's unnecessary because the audience knows it was a retcon.

 

[fireproof78]

You misunderstand. I'm saying Calypso is fine on its own, without it being explained in DSC season 5. It's like a later TOS episode trying to explain why James T. Kirk's middle initial was R in WNMHGB. It's unnecessary because the audience knows it was a retcon.

Still waiting for that explanation.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Still waiting for that explanation.

Clearly in the Vulcan Alphabet, Tiberius is spelled with an R.

 

[fireproof78]

Clearly in the Vulcan Alphabet, Tiberius is spelled with an R.

That's why Kirk's tomb was booby trapped.

 

[Charles Phipps]

That's why Kirk's tomb was booby trapped.

The Daystrom Institute is full of many riddles and puzzles.

 

[eschaton]

I guess I just don't get why people are so eager to jump to the conclusion the V'draysh are bad guys, or a splinter group. Is it just because Craft seemed pretty nice?

You do realize good people fight on both sides of wars, right?

 

[Dukhat]

Is Craft being a 'bad guy' really relevant? Yeah, he has a biased view of the V'Draysh, but the general information that was actually shown about them does not equate to the Federation we are shown in DSC season 3. The Federation wasn't at war with anyone because they didn't have the means to fight a war because they were constantly worried their ships would explode when going to warp. The V'Draysh valued relics from the 'Long Ago,' but when a ship from 900 years in the past appeared to them, they did not immediately get down on their hands and knees and worship the ground Burnham walked on. The 32nd century Federation showed no reverence for anything from the past, unlike the V'Draysh.

 

[MetroKid]

I guess I just don't get why people are so eager to jump to the conclusion the V'draysh are bad guys, or a splinter group. Is it just because Craft seemed pretty nice?

You do realize good people fight on both sides of wars, right?

Of course Craft's view of the V'Draysh/Federation was biased, he was a combatant against them. In the short we only see the war from his/Alcor IV's POV, he see's the V'Draysh/ Federation as aggressive and obsessed with the past, but we never see the other side of the coin. Craft seems to have a POV similar to a few recent Trek villains, that the Federation is a culturally imperialist society at best, and almost Borg-like at worst. This contrasts with our (the audience's) view of the Federation as the "Good Guys" because the Federation are mostly portrayed in a positive light to us. So, to say the V'Draysh represent a splinter group from the Federation or are really some other group entirely, despite the evidence that they are not, kind of does a disservice to the story, In which the audience and the characters may have a different POV of the same group. Those differences in POV make the story richer, because either one, or both, could be true.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Still waiting for that explanation.

If you read TrekLit, you got two explanations!

• Running in-joke between Kirk and Mitchell (My Brother's Keeper trilogy, by Michael Jan Friedman
• Alternate timeline (Q-Squared, by Peter David)

Nothing canon, of course, but if you're waiting for canon, you'll probably be still waiting for a long, long time.