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Thoughts about a TOS revival with AI technology

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Observation rather than assumption.
Total assumption. You have zero idea who you’re talking about so you make assumptions based solely on you not agreeing with me. To that end your viewpoint has zero relevance in my world.
 
It isn’t at all new. For decades fathers in popular media have been belittled and denigrated and it’s all taken as a joke. Do it to mothers and you’ll be roasted alive.

At work I have a friend/coworker who puts men down albeit in a somewhat joking manner. We get along great, but every once in awhile you wonder if she really is joking.

Assertive traits in women are lauded, but the same traits in men are often enough labeled as “toxic masculinity.” I would call toxic masculinity someone abusing or exploiting others for their own ends, like a certain former President trying to get re-elected. Someone who is merely confident and assertive is not toxic in anyone.
No, it's not. When I started my psychology education journey in early 2000s, one of my professors noted her frustration with the presentation of dads in media. It made me more aware of something to keep tabs on, and I have revisited the subject from time to time.

Not new, but the debate tends to be dismissed as fragile" which is itself interesting.
 
Reverse sexism in the media is a real thing, folks, and it has been for a long time. When something is smack in front of us, and you say it doesn't exist, that is a form of gaslighting.

So the subject isn't new, let alone imaginary:

In the 1980s, I was a VHS hobbyist, and I kept a log of what I taped. The tapes are gone but that notebook is in hand. On January 29, 1988, NBC Nightly News, anchored by Tom Brokaw, aired a segment on "male bashing" in advertising. It was about the already-prevalent trend of portraying men as clueless, while women were the smart, witty ones who always got it right. And there were no examples to be found of the opposite portrayal. Nobody was (or is) making women the fools.

What was liberal NBC Nightly News talking about, all the way back in 1988, if no such thing exists? Don't get me wrong, this is the LEAST of America's problems, but it's a thing and it exists.
 
Reverse sexism in the media is a real thing, folks, and it has been for a long time. When something is smack in front of us, and you say it doesn't exist, that is a form of gaslighting.

So the subject isn't new, let alone imaginary:

In the 1980s, I was a VHS hobbyist, and I kept a log of what I taped. The tapes are gone but that notebook is in hand. On January 29, 1988, NBC Nightly News, anchored by Tom Brokaw, aired a segment on "male bashing" in advertising. It was about the already-prevalent trend of portraying men as clueless, while women were the smart, witty ones who always got it right. And there were no examples to be found of the opposite portrayal. Nobody was (or is) making women the fools.

What was liberal NBC Nightly News talking about, all the way back in 1988, if no such thing exists? Don't get me wrong, this is the LEAST of America's problems, but it's a thing and it exists.
I’d say it is even more prevalent today. Today’s education is skewed more favourably to girls than boys now rather than equally. Girls today are getting generally better grades and more young women than young men are graduating college and university.

Today we also have a mindset of the far left that often bashes and denigrates traditional and established male role models.
 
When my kids were young, I'd steer them away from shows that showed a stupid father, stupid parents, or smart-ass kids. Basic lack of respect.

People of any sex can be nasty to the other sex. Nothing is new under the sun. It's edgy to be snarky, or something like that.

At any rate, let's return to a more Trek-themed discussion, OK?
 
Indeed - my wife stopped watching with me, among other shows, Cheers, Family Guy and The Simpsons, because she couldn't stand how stupid they were writing the lead male characters.
 
On January 29, 1988, NBC Nightly News, anchored by Tom Brokaw, aired a segment on "male bashing" in advertising.

Making guys the butt of the joke in ads and sitcoms has been a thing since the 1950s, because it sells products. You're saying that NBC found it suddenly remarkable thirty years or so ago?

Men in America who bellyache about getting the short end of the stick need to stop looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Especially WASPs.*


*Yeah, remember when that was a thing?
 
It's impressive, in kind of a sad way, that you've nursed that one for so long. :lol:

The scene at issue there still doesn't trouble me.
 
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So this uses AI for the TOS cast voices, was made all the way back in 2014 and looks and sounds like a CG animated show from the late 90's.
 
Men in America who bellyache about getting the short end of the stick need to stop looking through the wrong end of the telescope. Especially WASPs.*


*Yeah, remember when that was a thing?

Still is AFAIK. I am one.
 
It may be difficult to come to grips with the full and horrible meaning of this, but majoritarianism is at odds with minoritarianism. Any society that recognizes the inherent rights of any discriminated group has done so either because the majority has decided to do it, various minorities have allied to press for their rights, or as in the case of women, the subjugated group wasn’t a minority. The point is, the story of WASP men yielding power to first other men and then women, is a victory for democracy. Until it isn’t, and it results in a backlash. If white men are portrayed as buffoons, it may be entertaining to some and sell subscriptions and make money, but it all happens at a great cost. It should come as no surprise that part of that cost will be to lead many of them not to some introspective revelation of their buffoon-ness, but to the belief that yielding power was a mistake, and that it should be taken back. And that is why we are where we are. At least, in part.
 
It may be difficult to come to grips with the full and horrible meaning of this, but majoritarianism is at odds with minoritarianism. Any society that recognizes the inherent rights of any discriminated group has done so either because the majority has decided to do it, various minorities have allied to press for their rights, or as in the case of women, the subjugated group wasn’t a minority. The point is, the story of WASP men yielding power to first other men and then women, is a victory for democracy. Until it isn’t, and it results in a backlash. If white men are portrayed as buffoons, it may be entertaining to some and sell subscriptions and make money, but it all happens at a great cost. It should come as no surprise that part of that cost will be to lead many of them not to some introspective revelation of their buffoon-ness, but to the belief that yielding power was a mistake, and that it should be taken back. And that is why we are where we are. At least, in part.

I believe Bonz has been pretty clear, twice, about staying on topic and letting this stuff go.
 
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