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Picard film in development

I think it is. How do I put this? If Picard's with a woman, she should be an actual character, not an idea or a reward or a trophy. Women exists for reasons besides, "I'm the wife!" It wouldn't be a very 25th Century attitude to have depicted in Picard, it's not even a 21st Century attitude in Real Life. It's a mid-20th Century 1950s idea. "And Picard gets married!" "I'm Misses Picard!"

This doesn't have to necessarily be true.
Not fleshing out a character doesn't make them a reward or trophy, it would suggest that it's baggage the viewer is bringing to a literal blank slate.
 
That's not true at all. I remember a few people pointing it out, calling it laziness etc

Yeah, it was laziness/budget/lack of time etc. that they used DSC assets for a Short Trek taking place 150 years after DSC, but that wasn’t my point. My point was that those ships didn’t look out of place in that time period.
 
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Picard can be in a polyamorous marriage to both Beverly and Laris. I still can see him showing up at the place he and Laris were to live at, later after the events on season 3 of Picard and being like "Honey I am home. I want you to meet the other love of my live in Beverly. Let's all get married!"

Ah, the Romulan marriage idea.

I think it is. How do I put this? If Picard's with a woman, she should be an actual character, not an idea or a reward or a trophy. Women exist for reasons besides, "I'm the wife!" It wouldn't be a very 25th Century attitude to have depicted in Picard, it's not even a 21st Century attitude in Real Life. It's a mid-20th Century 1950s idea. "And Picard gets married!" "I'm Misses Picard!"

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Context also matters.

Picard and Beverly could choose not to renew their marriage after a while. The 7 year itch idea, and they amicably part ways after 35 years. Then Picard chooses someone else to marry.

Maybe the identity of that person is left as a mystery to be followed up on later on in a different series.
 
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I don't think Sir Patrick sees the mystery wife as some kind of wife that shouldn't be seen on screen because she's unimportant - quite the contrary. His intention seems to be for her identity to be deliberately obscured, hence why he wants for his wife to voice her. So that people are left wondering and speculating who she is. (And for all the Picard/Laris and Picard/Crusher shippers to join forces and pick up the pitchforks, lol.)
 
So that people are left wondering and speculating who she is. (And for all the Picard/Laris and Picard/Crusher shippers to join forces and pick up the pitchforks, lol.)

I really like the idea of Picard's wife being... somebody we don't know.

Feels like the boat sailed with Crusher and it would feel odd for them to get together. Laris kind of came out of nowhere and I think she was what Picard needed at the moment, but maybe not long term.
 
I agree, I don't think there's gonna be anything Laris again. Remember, Sir Patrick wants that absolutely unnecessary ending with a wife who calls Jean-Luc over for dinner and we only hear her voice (and in reality she's voiced by his real life wife).
I don't know what this refers to? Is this from the bar scene at the end of S3?
 
I don't know what this refers to? Is this from the bar scene at the end of S3?

It's a scene that wasn't even filmed.

"It is dusk at Jean-Luc's vineyard. His back is to us as he takes in the view, his dog at his side. Then, off-screen, a woman's loving voice is heard: 'Jean-Luc? Supper's ready!' Is it Beverly Crusher's voice? Laris's? Someone we don't know? It isn't made clear." He also reveals his real-life wife, Sunny Ozell, "was set to record the lines." Then concludes as, "Heeding his wife's call, Jean-Luc turns around, says to his dog, 'C'mon, boy,' and heads inside. Dusk fades to night, and Picard fades into history."
 
I think it would feel weird for him to be in love with yet another women in like 3 different seasons in a role. First Laris then back to Crusher and then someone we never seen. Also what is even the point of creating a mystery lover for Picard? It's not exactly a mystery that is built into the main essence of the character or the show. It didn't work with Antonia and KIrk in Generations so I doubt it would work here. People I think would want closure for the character and if your do want to end a mystery it's got to be over something more interesting some women he falls in love with that we don't even get a chance to now a character. A proper Mystery would Picard finding out he won't die like predicted because of his Android body or Picard does die and is greeted by Q. Is it really Q or a illusion. Is Q going to making him immortal like the Q. Does this mean the Q really are Gods. All questions that people can speculate for a long time after it is all over.
 
In my humble opinion, the only truly attractive Starfleet ship they introduced in Picard was the Intrepid. It looks how I expected a 25th century Starship to look, while still being unique and interesting.
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The Titan, while a beautiful 23rd century design by the master Bill Krause, still doesn't work for me as a 25th century ship.

The Excelsior II design is rather hideous, in my opinion. While the Stargazer looks overly complicated in it's design.

The copy/paste fleet design from season one it's rather generic and dull, and pretty much everything else is just Star Trek online designs. The less said about them, the better.
I'll admit, this one cool looking ship, especially due to the "Engineering Pod".
 
I think it would feel weird for him to be in love with yet another women in like 3 different seasons in a role. First Laris then back to Crusher and then someone we never seen. Also what is even the point of creating a mystery lover for Picard? It's not exactly a mystery that is built into the main essence of the character or the show. It didn't work with Antonia and KIrk in Generations so I doubt it would work here. People I think would want closure for the character and if your do want to end a mystery it's got to be over something more interesting some women he falls in love with that we don't even get a chance to now a character. A proper Mystery would Picard finding out he won't die like predicted because of his Android body or Picard does die and is greeted by Q. Is it really Q or a illusion. Is Q going to making him immortal like the Q. Does this mean the Q really are Gods. All questions that people can speculate for a long time after it is all over.

The Q idea would of course be the ideal ending, no doubt. Q and Jean-Luc should book-end his character's arc, it would be the perfect closure from Farpoint to now. I'd vote for this ending anytime. The PIC writers even recognized this in season 2 when they named Q as the one relationship Jean-Luc has that is most important to the character.

Unfortunately, Sir Patrick seems hell-bent on giving Jean-Luc an ending that features him in a happy relationship with someone. I'm guessing this is partly because he thinks he and Jean-Luc are basically the same person these days and what worked for him in his personal life will work for Jean-Luc as well. (I very much disagree with this but hey, I'm used to disagreeing with Sir Patrick about pretty much anything regarding Jean-Luc, lol.)
 
It's a scene that wasn't even filmed.

"It is dusk at Jean-Luc's vineyard. His back is to us as he takes in the view, his dog at his side. Then, off-screen, a woman's loving voice is heard: 'Jean-Luc? Supper's ready!' Is it Beverly Crusher's voice? Laris's? Someone we don't know? It isn't made clear." He also reveals his real-life wife, Sunny Ozell, "was set to record the lines." Then concludes as, "Heeding his wife's call, Jean-Luc turns around, says to his dog, 'C'mon, boy,' and heads inside. Dusk fades to night, and Picard fades into history."

He could have called her ‘Antonia,’ and the audience who were savvy enough to get the reference, would know that Picard is still in the Nexus and never left despite him thinking that he did.
 
He could have called her ‘Antonia,’ and the audience who were savvy enough to get the reference, would know that Picard is still in the Nexus and never left despite him thinking that he did.
I thought Antonia was Kirk's fantasy woman on a horse?
 
I kind of forgot this is allegedly a thing. I know Sir Patrick received a script and all, but with so much in flux at Paramount, my gut says it doesn’t happen.

Mind you, a “gut” is hardly a reliable indicator.
 
I kind of forgot this is allegedly a thing. I know Sir Patrick received a script and all, but with so much in flux at Paramount, my gut says it doesn’t happen.

Mind you, a “gut” is hardly a reliable indicator.

How long has it taken to roll cameras on Section 31?

Paramount moves at a glacial pace, even during the best of times. :whistle:
 
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