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“Sabrerunner”? Seriously, that’s the class name? M’kay… 
It seems like Small StarShips (Ships usually in length from 20-180 meters) are finally getting some real love / focus in the most recent era of Star Trek:
Every Small StarShip from:
- "La Sirena"
- "Booker's Ship"
- USS ProtoStar
- SabreRunner class (USS Passaro)
Every Small StarShip from:
- "La Sirena"
- "Booker's Ship"
- USS ProtoStar
- SabreRunner class (USS Passaro)
Hmm. I wonder if some story in the foreseeable future will canonise the class name Venture class for Data's mission scoutship from Star Trek: Insurrection.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Federation_mission_scoutship
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Federation_mission_scoutship
Bladerunner would be a good name.
I wonder why it’s not called Saberrunner?
Memory Alpha spotted a Sphinx workpod (Sphinx-class?) in the latest ep. Is it part of the Nova Fleet? I didn't notice it.
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I think it's called "SabreRunner-class" because Fabio Passaro is of British Nationality.
Ergo the the British spelling of "Sabre" vs "Saber".
Then they took the Steam Runner class and shrunk it down to Saber-class size.
Since the Saber-class already uses the American spelling, I think it's only fair to use the British spelling when paying homage to Fabio Passaro who is of British Nationality.
And "SabreRunner" looks better to read then "SaberRunner"
Because it's a Steamrunner the size of a Saber.“Sabrerunner”? Seriously, that’s the class name? M’kay…
Makes sense to me.
It's in Nick's space station.
Is this kind of like the Picard effect, with the Neo-Constitution that doesn't look like it's part of the same design family?
I admit, even though I'm not familiar with LD and don't watch it, it seems like a bit of a weird choice to me. I was looking at the screencaps yesterday and just assumed the Passaro was a stock Steamrunner.
If you put it side by side with images of a regular steamrunner there are quite a few differences. Escape pods and windows are in almost completely different places, and the bridge module is flipped around.
At glance yeah it looks like a regular steamrunner, and the silhouette is identical.
At glance yeah it looks like a regular steamrunner, and the silhouette is identical.
Are they running out of ideas or something?
The PIC Neo-Connie/Titan/Sangri La thing has been mentioned, but that's not the only one. There's also the whole Buckner/Centaur (DS9/PRO) thing and Connie-vs-Sombra (SNW) business as well, following this trend. I guess they're taking a page from the multi-scaled BOP for these things now. No longer is it chalked up to a simple difficulty for the post-production crew maintaining scale during the final compositing process, but a fully codified canonical phenomenon as it applies to in-universe starship design.
Starship looking too small?
Kinda silly, IMO, but it is what it is...
The PIC Neo-Connie/Titan/Sangri La thing has been mentioned, but that's not the only one. There's also the whole Buckner/Centaur (DS9/PRO) thing and Connie-vs-Sombra (SNW) business as well, following this trend. I guess they're taking a page from the multi-scaled BOP for these things now. No longer is it chalked up to a simple difficulty for the post-production crew maintaining scale during the final compositing process, but a fully codified canonical phenomenon as it applies to in-universe starship design.
Starship looking too small?
Kinda silly, IMO, but it is what it is...
Size is just weird.. The romulan ship looked TINY, its suppose to be Ginormous!
Exactly. I expect, though, that if the "Nova Fleet" had an actual Aelignne in its arsenal, they wouldn't be able to hide quite so effectively. They just took another lesser-known conceptual design and down-scaled it for the purposes of the show.
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At any given time, how many active SF shipping classes should be in services?
I really like the smaller scale of the upright Romulan Warbird. Fills a gap in canon Romulan ships that I've always wanted an entry for.
I think I might have an old Warbird model kit kicking around in my storage. I'm tempted to use it to kitbash one... call it 1:1000 scale.
--Alex
I think I might have an old Warbird model kit kicking around in my storage. I'm tempted to use it to kitbash one... call it 1:1000 scale.
--Alex
Pardon me, is Aelignne a typo or am I just oblivious? I am unfamiliar with that word.
IIRC, it was the class name given to Andrew Probert’s “Vertibird” concept Romulan design that eventually became the D’Deridex, by rotating it 90 degrees.
I can’t specifically recall exactly where the name came from, if it was thought up by Probert, or if it emerged elsewhere, but it seems to have stuck.
And it is a monster, in its original concept.
I always thought the huge implied scale of the warbird relative to the Galaxy was rather silly, and I'm glad later episodes of TNG didn't follow it. The Centaur thing is at least a bit more understandable, as the model was originally never intended to be more than an occasional background ship and the scale had to be adjusted when it was decided to use it as the USS Centaur.
Some days I think FASA got it right by specifically having multiple BOP variants, for reasons that made a degree of sense in the game context. Solves a lot of scaling problems, IMO. The Klingons weren't supposed to modify the scout type hulls they received from the Romulans aside from installing their own systems, but they did anyway because the S-11 greatly impressed them. The scaled up cruiser and frigate models have a number of internal differences, and the frigates can't even land because of their mass. The Romulans got back at the Klingons by copying the newer variants for their own fleet.
The Centaur thing is at least a bit more understandable, as the model was originally never intended to be more than an occasional background ship and the scale had to be adjusted when it was decided to use it as the USS Centaur. Some days I think FASA got it right by specifically having multiple BOP variants, for reasons that made a degree of sense in the game context. Solves a lot of scaling problems, IMO.
The Klingons weren't supposed to modify the scout type hulls they received from the Romulans aside from installing their own systems, but they did anyway because the S-11 greatly impressed them. The scaled up cruiser and frigate models have a number of internal differences, and the frigates can't even land because of their mass. The Romulans got back at the Klingons by copying the newer variants for their own fleet.
