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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 4x05 - "Empathalogical Fallacies"

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No other point of reference?
Why would any individual character dying mean they were particularly elderly? The same reference could be construed to assume he died particularly young for a Vulcan, especially as we know he had a complicating factor (Bendii syndrome).
 
I wonder if T'Lyn could be part Romulan and thus have some trouble with her emotions?

Might make for a cool way to update us on Simon, the part-Romulan from Drumhead with a cameo.
 
Why would any individual character dying mean they were particularly elderly? The same reference could be construed to assume he died particularly young for a Vulcan, especially as we know he had a complicating factor (Bendii syndrome).
Because humans use common reference points, and Sarek's presentation was as aged and dying.

Those are the markers humans will reference and we don't have other Vulcans to reference.
 
It makes me wonder, if the Betazoids retained the BIA (Betzoid Intelligence Agency) while still being Full Fledged members of the UFP, does that mean every Member species of the UFP would retain their "Species Specific" Intelligence Agency while being a Member State of the UFP?

Kind of a mix of US & EU models of Federalism?

This is also the first time we've had any sort of definite age thrown around for any of the characters: Boimler is over 25, and grew a shitty mustache for his 25th and he knew Mariner at the time, which means he's anywhere between 25 and 29 at present.
Jack Quaid's only 31 y/o, so he's not too far from his characters age.
 
I wonder if T'Lyn could be part Romulan and thus have some trouble with her emotions?

Might make for a cool way to update us on Simon, the part-Romulan from Drumhead with a cameo.
That would depend on Vulcan emotional control being genetic rather than the product of training and disciple. Evidence seems to point to Vulcans learning to control their emotions. They are not born with emotional control. A Romulan raised by Vulcans would probably have the same control over emotions as a Vulcan. A Vulcan raised outside of Vulcan society might not be all that different than a human or a Romulan.
 
Because humans use common reference points, and Sarek's presentation was as aged and dying.

Those are the markers humans will reference and we don't have other Vulcans to reference.

Yep, aside from the movies, Sarek was almost always presented as frail and ailing in his appearances on TOS and TNG.
 
It makes me wonder, if the Betazoids retained the BIA (Betzoid Intelligence Agency) while still being Full Fledged members of the UFP, does that mean every Member species of the UFP would retain their "Species Specific" Intelligence Agency while being a Member State of the UFP?

Kind of a mix of US & EU models of Federalism?
One would imagine some internal affairs are still managed by existing government agencies on planet.
 
could be just an area…wouldn’t read much into it. Same goes for The Apple btw.
But "Code of Honor" we should read in to?

I'm not sure that quite washes the way you think it does. "Justice" is a strange episode, and not one I would welcome for Lower Decks to explore, any more than Code of Honor.
 
Yep, aside from the movies, Sarek was almost always presented as frail and ailing in his appearances on TOS and TNG.

If Sarek was frail and ailing in "Journey to Babel", when he was 100 years younger, that would imply that Sarek was always unusually sickly. Especially since Spock was about Sarek's age in "Unification" and if memory serves, he didn't look frail or ailing at all. Or perhaps Spock was just unusually robust. I haven't seen "Amok Time" except the once, but wasn't T'Pau supposed to be an elderly Vulcan at the time? Did she look frail?
 
Omitting them is better than trying to make those odd episodes fit. Might as well say "Code of Honor " is an odd omission.
Lower Decks is horny as fuck which is why the planets I mentioned are surprising in their lack of visitation. I wouldn't expect an episode about them but just a quick glimpse in a flashback or holodeck or something.

Code of Honor is left out for a very different reason.
 
Lower Decks is horny as fuck which is why the planets I mentioned are surprising in their lack of visitation. I wouldn't expect an episode about them but just a quick glimpse in a flashback or holodeck or something.

Code of Honor is left out for a very different reason.
Code of Honor was equally horny.

I think their omissions are along the same lines, but that's just me.
 
could be just an area…wouldn’t read much into it. Same goes for The Apple btw.
We can always come up with reasons something isn't as it appears to be. I have done that all the time as a fan, and often have great fun doing so. But there's an obvious appearance with "Justice". And not-too-long coming after the blatantly racist "Code of Honor" it isn't hard to see it as "paradise equals innocent white blondes."
 
I have always wondered why people assume that Sarek was particularly elderly for a Vulcan
I assume it comes from Sarek being "middle aged" in Journey to Babel. McCoy ask's why he would be retired at his age, which was 102. He has a touch of grey in his hair which implies middle age. Plus the adult son.
 
Steve doesn't even like Lower Decks, but he will defend it over stuff like this
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Also Jörg's tweet throwing shade lol
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