Spoilers AHSOKA series [Spoiler Discussion]
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Well we have Ezra, who seemed happy enough in his little Turtle village. I guess this is a Big Deal™ for Rebels fans. Can't say it tickled me anywhere. Were the performances a bit more ... I dunno, animated (pun intended), I might warm to some of these characters - in spite of not having seen Rebels. As it stands, everything feels so flat and joyless (at least in the Good Guys corner).
I would much rather kick around with Ray Stevenson's character, whose motivations now appear to be some version of breaking the wheel.
I liked Thrawn. I am aware of his reputation as a tactical genius, but he doesn't strike me as an imminent threat to the galaxy if all he's packing is one star destroyer with a diminished compliment. Or is the New Republic that incompetent (possibly, given the rise of the First Order and their earlier obtuseness at the start of the season) that Thrawn could well destabilize the galaxy and rally the Imperial remnants? Perhaps something else up his sleeve related to the magic of the Dark Sisters? I dunno.
I don't believe my lack of enjoyment has anything to do with passing on Rebels. It's more an issue of substance, tone and pacing.
I would much rather kick around with Ray Stevenson's character, whose motivations now appear to be some version of breaking the wheel.
I liked Thrawn. I am aware of his reputation as a tactical genius, but he doesn't strike me as an imminent threat to the galaxy if all he's packing is one star destroyer with a diminished compliment. Or is the New Republic that incompetent (possibly, given the rise of the First Order and their earlier obtuseness at the start of the season) that Thrawn could well destabilize the galaxy and rally the Imperial remnants? Perhaps something else up his sleeve related to the magic of the Dark Sisters? I dunno.
I don't believe my lack of enjoyment has anything to do with passing on Rebels. It's more an issue of substance, tone and pacing.
Baylan is truly intriguing. Is this the first time he mentioned hearing something/one calling him?
Yes, there's definitely more going on here.
I watched and liked Rebels and still find Ahsoka to be intensely mediocre.
I have actual discussions all the time, with other people who are interested in having actual discussions. I’d be happy to have an actual discussion with you, if you were willing to have an actual discussion. But you’re not. You’re only interested in showing off how stupid you can be,
OK, more convinced than ever that place is meant to be a Jedi or Sith related structure, not Nightsister.
What if it's a Sith prison, and it's Palpatine that imprisoned the Great Mothers here as his part of the bargain with Talzin for her to attain dominance over the coven in exchange for teaching him necromancy? What if it's Palpatine's death that set them free and allowed Thrawn to make this pact? This plan only having been in motion for the last 5 years makes it feel a little more plausible, especially since it means Thrawn had a good 5 years of being out there with no support or allies and being why they are so obviously ground down and in need of Dark Magiks to survive.
What if it's a Sith prison, and it's Palpatine that imprisoned the Great Mothers here as his part of the bargain with Talzin for her to attain dominance over the coven in exchange for teaching him necromancy? What if it's Palpatine's death that set them free and allowed Thrawn to make this pact? This plan only having been in motion for the last 5 years makes it feel a little more plausible, especially since it means Thrawn had a good 5 years of being out there with no support or allies and being why they are so obviously ground down and in need of Dark Magiks to survive.
It is possible that the people who build this tower influenced the Jedi and Sith later on. The Jedi are only 25 millennia old, and the Sith less than that. If what they say of the witches is true and they took the star whales before time itself, then they could have influenced what became the Jedi Order 25,000 years ago.
Oh, duh. Of course. I keep forgetting to check the subtitles! One of these days I'll remember...Subtitles for the hearing impaired often contains details like this. Also where I got "Night Troopers" from.
Side note: they also indicated that the bandits were speaking "Noti langauge"
Another observation: this is only going off stills, but they really should have cast a Thrawn with razor-sharp cheekbones and other features to make up for the flattening effect of dark blue skin. The could still have replaced another actor's voice if necessary, but Bluon Must does not look intimidating, and I can't imagine him looking any better on the big screen.
Thrawn had solid red eyes too, no pupils or what not. The cartoon was the first to change it- it was not a good change.
I don't care about sharp cheekbones or anything like that. What matters is his voice and his mind. Everything else just falls into place after that.
And that's a hard no on having another actor perform him with Lars Mikkelsen's voice dubbed over them.
I doubt it. Influence is one thing, being an almost 1-to-1 identical style millennia later is quite another. Like I said before though, the real smoking gun is the script. Every other Nightsister ruin we've seen so far has their own language all over it. So then why would they adorn this place with script we only ever see in Old Republic era Jedi & Sith structures and NONE of their own? Plus of course as illustrated, we have actual examples of Dathmiri architecture and it looks nothing like this, but lines up perfectly with the giant statues that dot the landscape.
I think this is something the Jedi or Sith came and built much later. Maybe as recently as 2-4 millennia ago. We already know accounts of this place and the purrgill migration path are in the archives. It's not impossible that the path jump coordinates were a closely guarded secret that was lost when the Temple was sacked during the fall of the Old Republic, relegating it to myth and folklore once the knowledge fell out of living memory.
We also have an established precedent of both Jedi and Sith building temples on top of each other as the sites are typically located on a powerful force nexus. Maybe the Nightsister catacombs where there first, and the Sith/Jedi built over it.
And as if we needed an Exhibit C: If the old armour the bandits are wearing doesn't fit the description of "scraps of ancient Sith Red Guard uniforms", I don't' know what does . . .
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For all the complaints, what do you expect is going to happen with an 8 episode (hopefully multi-season) show?
It's a mix of character and action.
You need space to introduce new characters properly. While not the slow burn of Andor, after the action adventure of The Mandalorian I want something a little deeper, a little slower.
What was Thrawn doing out there? I don't know but it sure seemed rough on his ship and crew.
I guess we'll find out.
It's a mix of character and action.
You need space to introduce new characters properly. While not the slow burn of Andor, after the action adventure of The Mandalorian I want something a little deeper, a little slower.
What was Thrawn doing out there? I don't know but it sure seemed rough on his ship and crew.
I guess we'll find out.
13 years in another galaxy living off of Imperial food rations and native food sources would probably have a dramatic and mostly negative impact on his officers and men. That's a long time to be cut off from the universe they all knew and grew up in.
Hasn't been 13 years, has it? From shortly before Yavin to... what? 5 or so after ROTJ? I figure 8 years or so?
I will admit I'm fuzzy on the timeline here.
I will admit I'm fuzzy on the timeline here.
12 minimum from my math but, hey, they know how to keep some dating vague until it's absolutely necessary to reveal it.
You should go outside and play sometime.......you think all the battle damaged Trooper armour came from sitting around the barracks? Should they have to spoon feed every tad of backstory to an audience? They show doesn't HAVE to tell you.......it seems pretty obvious to me. I have a few issues/questions myself but I am content to wait and see if they are answered........overall I think most people are enjoying this more than we expected to.
Judging by how quickly the Imperial forces fell apart at the seams between Endor & Jakku, I doubt Thrawn's forces have had any easier a time of it. Seriously, it got very hairy with some crew starting to quasi-worship one of Palpatine's creepy messenger droids, others going full 'Apocalypse Now' style feral.
I'd go so far as to presume that part of the reason why Thrawns forces are so depleted (and possibly undead) is that he's had to put down a major mutiny at some point.
It's heavily implied that the battles of Lothal and Scariff/Yavin are very close together, so safe to take any ANH related dates as close enough for the 'Rebels' finale when it comes to general estimates.
I'd go so far as to presume that part of the reason why Thrawns forces are so depleted (and possibly undead) is that he's had to put down a major mutiny at some point.
Officially RotJ is about 4 years after ANH, and the Mandoverse is all within the 9th year post ANH (so 5 years post RotJ.)
It's heavily implied that the battles of Lothal and Scariff/Yavin are very close together, so safe to take any ANH related dates as close enough for the 'Rebels' finale when it comes to general estimates.
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There is also still the question about whether the events we're seeing here happen before Ashoka greets Mando at Luke's new school.
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