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Spoilers AHSOKA series [Spoiler Discussion]

I have to say they really had me going with Sabine trying to open the door with the Force and it looked like it was actually working but it was just Thrawn's ship arriving.

Tricksy hobbitses

I thought for a moment that maybe Ezra was on the other side of the door, and that was going to be his big reveal.
 
Once again, Dave Filoni smashes his head on the low ceiling of his own imagination.

Holy crap, what a lousy episode.

So Thrawn, with an entire Star Destroyer at his disposal and no reasonable expectation that he would ever return home, just spends ten years or so....doing literally nothing? The great "tactical genius" doesn't decide to, I dunno, take over a corner of the new galaxy? Start his own mini Empire? Do anything whatsoever other than watch his ship fall apart and his troopers customize their armor? Sigh.

On the plus side, the guy playing Ezra was great and showed more charisma in his 30 second scene than literally every other actor put together has demonstrated in the entire series (and in Dawson's case, during her entire portrayal of Ashoka across multiple series thus far.)
 
It is interesting that the Great Mothers sense Jedi in Sabine. Sabine has as of yet displayed no aptitude with the Force other than being skilled enough to use a lightsaber without issues. She's not shown any sensing powers, telekinesis powers, or just of anything else. Yet they sense it and Ahsoka must have sensed something to even consider training Sabine in the first place. Though Sabine does keep attempting to use the Force. She keeps "do not" in this sense, but tries to shift that to "do".
 
The Force surrounds everything.

Sabine was trained by a Jedi, and Ahsoka, for all her protestations, still holds to the Jedi tradition, and it reflects in her training methods.

Sabine's way of caring herself would reflect her masters, Kanan and Ahsoka. Of course they would sense Jedi.

Start his own mini Empire?
That's not his ambition. He states it clearly that he is "in exile." and has a mission for his Emperor.
 
So Thrawn, with an entire Star Destroyer at his disposal and no reasonable expectation that he would ever return home, just spends ten years or so....doing literally nothing? The great "tactical genius" doesn't decide to, I dunno, take over a corner of the new galaxy? Start his own mini Empire? Do anything whatsoever other than watch his ship fall apart and his troopers customize their armor? Sigh.
He apparently has one ship and a few thousand troops, and there is a vaguely described “far greater power” around. Starting a war there would obviously not have been a good move.

But this is the same old argument. You say, “The writing sucks and the characters don’t do what I would do because they’re morons,” and everybody else points out that the characters don’t do what you would do because they’re not morons.
 
He apparently has one ship and a few thousand troops, and there is a vaguely described “far greater power” around. Starting a war there would obviously not have been a good move.

But this is the same old argument. You say, “The writing sucks and the characters don’t do what I would do because they’re morons,” and everybody else points out that the characters don’t do what you would do because they’re not morons.

So Thrawn is a "genius" because he spent ten years just rotting over a crummy planet doing literally nothing in the vague, nearly impossible hope that he'd some day get rescued?

Yeah, that's some "genius" level thinking right there!

He's the greatest strategic mind in the galaxy!
 
So Thrawn is a "genius" because he spent ten years just rotting over a crummy planet doing literally nothing in the vague, nearly impossible hope that he'd some day get rescued?

Yeah, that's some "genius" level thinking right there!
It wasn’t a “vague, nearly impossible hope,” and you know that, but are just feigning ignorance to generate a criticism. There was some kind of communication between the two galaxies, and Elsbeth and crew were expected when they arrived. But you just ignore this very clearly established fact and make up some nonsense story of Thrawn sitting around doing nothing with no plan. You’re not even trying to attack Filoni’s work at this point. You’re just making up your own story and attacking that. It has nothing to do with what’s put on screen.
 
By Maz Kanata. She seems to call him an ancient evil. Or at least that was the implication in The Force Awakens.
No, not really. She call's the First Order "beasts." But that's about it on her comments on that.

Snoke is not mentioned by her. The Last Jedi visual dictionary takes the idea of Snoke as an ancient Force user and expands upon it like they do but none of that was stated in the films themselves. Snoke is shown to be powerful in the Force by torturing Hux at a distance, then torturing Rey, the leader over the First Order in an almost cultlike fashion, and that's it.
 
I can't claim to have read the TLJ visual dictionary, but I've seen the Snoke page and it doesn't say he's ancient.
 
So Thrawn, with an entire Star Destroyer at his disposal and no reasonable expectation that he would ever return home, just spends ten years or so....doing literally nothing? The great "tactical genius" doesn't decide to, I dunno, take over a corner of the new galaxy? Start his own mini Empire? Do anything whatsoever other than watch his ship fall apart and his troopers customize their armor? Sigh.

Really, that's what you took away as backstory? Not that Thrawn and his troops have been through the ringer, fighting something powerful? And that he was away actively doing something and had to be summoned back, the exact opposite of "doing nothing"?
 
Really, that's what you took away as backstory? Not that Thrawn and his troops have been through the ringer, fighting something powerful? And that he was away actively doing something and had to be summoned back, the exact opposite of "doing nothing"?

There's zero evidence of that. Silly me, for taking the show at face value and not inventing a backstory that's not in there to justify crappy writing.
 
It wasn’t a “vague, nearly impossible hope,” and you know that, but are just feigning ignorance to generate a criticism. There was some kind of communication between the two galaxies, and Elsbeth and crew were expected when they arrived. But you just ignore this very clearly established fact and make up some nonsense story of Thrawn sitting around doing nothing with no plan. You’re not even trying to attack Filoni’s work at this point. You’re just making up your own story and attacking that. It has nothing to do with what’s put on screen.

So he didn't wait around for ten years doing nothing? Now who's inventing their own story?
 
So he didn't wait around for ten years doing nothing? Now who's inventing their own story?
You are. There is nothing on screen establishing that he did “nothing” and had no plan. That’s just something you made up.

The version of Ahsoka you wrote, admittedly, sucks. The version of Ahsoka that Filoni and crew wrote is something you have been unwilling to discuss. You’d rather show off how smart you are by insulting them for allowing you to imagine your own shitty version of the show.
 
All those stormtroopers look like they have been through a lot with their cracked and wrapped armor. The Chimaera has been heavily patched up. It still functions, but only has one main drive left. So while it might be able to enter hyperspace, it can't go fast. Certainly not fast enough to get home. So, he might have cruised around the local systems, but his goal has always been to return home. One of the rules of being lost is to stay where someone might find you.

High probability that a lot of Thrawn's stormtroopers are basically armor and a spirit held together by Nightsister magic.

As for Ezra. He's been escaping Imperial prisons since he was a teenager. At best they could have held him when he was wounded, and then he escaped, because that's what Ezra does.
 
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