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Spoilers AHSOKA series [Spoiler Discussion]

They gave the Chimaera an ISD-II style targeting array for some reason.
The rest of the model (minus the modifications to show damage) matches the Imperial-I model from Rogue One.
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Thrawn had solid red eyes too, no pupils or what not. The cartoon was the first to change it- it was not a good change.
No, that was the best change they made. It's hard to tell where he's looking, or how he's emoting without pupils.
 
I find him to be an intriguing character and I want more of him. I'm not good with the adjectives here but I find a certain gravitas, forlorn, maybe a touch of whimsy.

I can't see him being quite a Sith. He's something else. It's too bad we only get two more eps with him. RIP.
I think they said outright in interviews and articles that Baylan and Shin are not Sith. I kind of get the impression that he's just a Jedi who went through serious shit after the Order fell and went through something that drove him to the Dark Side. I believe being the Sith means you follow a very specific philosophy, so you can be a Dark Jedi without being a Sith. I believe they Inquisitors would be an example of Dark Jedi who aren't SIth. I'm not sure exactly what category Asaaj Ventress would fall into since she was trained by a Sith, but her being a full Sith apprentice would go against The Rule of Two.
 
Wow. You really don’t have any purpose here except to show off how big an idiot you can be, do you? And I’ve been playing right into your hands.

OK, you win. You’re the biggest idiot around. I’m sure you must be very proud of yourself.

I have actual discussions all the time, with other people who are interested in having actual discussions. I’d be happy to have an actual discussion with you, if you were willing to have an actual discussion. But you’re not. You’re only interested in showing off how stupid you can be,

Cool it and now! Warning for flaming. Comments to PM
 
I think they said outright in interviews and articles that Baylan and Shin are not Sith. I kind of get the impression that he's just a Jedi who went through serious shit after the Order fell and went through something that drove him to the Dark Side. I believe being the Sith means you follow a very specific philosophy, so you can be a Dark Jedi without being a Sith. I believe they Inquisitors would be an example of Dark Jedi who aren't SIth. I'm not sure exactly what category Asaaj Ventress would fall into since she was trained by a Sith, but her being a full Sith apprentice would go against The Rule of Two.


Ooooohhhh.....that's a good point about Asaaj. By the time we see her at the end of CW she's abandoned the Sith. Same with Maul. They're just doing their own thing. Granted, they're not good guys. Maul isn't for sure but I'm unclear about Asaaj. Amoral?

But Baylan seems to have some higher purpose that we still don't know about and I am intrigued. It's the only thing I find interesting in this series. The actor has done a fantastic job with the role. It's a shame.
 
No, that was the best change they made. It's hard to tell where he's looking, or how he's emoting without pupils.

I think they could have gotten that across with voice, head movements, body language, etc. Including the emoting. 90+% of communication is non-verbal.

It's another one of those moot points now, though. They've picked their path on this.
 
For the record; the eyes don't bother me. They work just fine, and I think blank red eyes would look too cartoony in live action and unnecessarily limit the actor's performance. Ironic considering even the cartoon though it would be too cartoony, but that only emphasises the point.
There is also still the question about whether the events we're seeing here happen before Ashoka greets Mando at Luke's new school.
Yeah, my preference is for this to all be just after the events of 'The Jedi', but if Thrawn is about to return with a splash, then it kind of has to happen concurrent with Mando season 3.
Judging by her costume, Ahsoka meet Luke before finding the map. I imagine she could have been on her way to find the map when R2-D2 called her to come deal with Mando.
That in and of itself doesn't really mean much. The significance of the costume change is purely metaphorical. There's nothing actually mystical about her white robes and armor, it's just an outfit she owns, as is her grey one, which she still also owns and may wear again in the future.
 
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For whatever it's worth, in Norse mythology Skoll and Hati are wolves who chase the sun and moon respectively. Come Ragnarok, they catch up; Skoll devours the driver of the sun and Hati the driver of the moon, and darkness descends.

The question in relation to the Star Wars characters would be, who would be the Sun and Moon' drivers in this instance? Sabine and Ezra? Ahsoka and Thrawn? Something completely unrelated to known characters and more related to whatever it is Baylan is sensing? In his effort to end the cycle he accidentally restarts it via giving Palpatine his way to return? Or was that not the cycle in question, but something for the Rey film later on?
 
Something about the chronology still bugs me, so I went back and re-watched the Shadow Council scene in 'The Spies' to refresh my memory, and while it's not concrete, it does seem as though there's a reasonable case to be made for Thrawn already being back by that point, and by extension, all of this show happening before Mando Season 3; Observe.
Of particular note is this exchange: -
GILAD PELLION
But that strength must not be wasted. Grand Admiral Thrawn’s return will herald in the reemergence of our military, and provide Commandant Hux enough time to deliver on Project Necromancer.

MOFF GIDEON
Captain Pellaeon, you always speak with much authority, and yet, I see, once again, that Grand Admiral Thrawn is missing from your delegation. Any word on when he will be able to participate in the Shadow Council?

GILAD PELLION
With respect, our one hope for success relies upon the secrecy of his return.
This could be taken either way of course, but it would make sense that once back, Thrawn would want some time to establish himself, keep a low profile, and get the lay of the galaxy before making moves. It's not like him to just come out swinging.
Indeed given what's being set-up, I suspect we'll see Hera removed from command, and the New Republic remain wilfully ignorant of Thrawn's return for now. Though the implication there could be that Ezra never actually makes it back home, since it'd be pretty hard to deny the narrative when the person last seen with Thrawn reappears.

Yes Gideon says he's heard no whispers despite him being Mr Head Spymaster Person, but he also says he's not doing any cloning work, so we know he's full of crap and what he says here cannot be taken at face value. It's entirely possible he knows full well Thrawn is back; meaning that's partly what's driving his need for his force adept super-clones, and why he's posturing so much to gain as much sway of the council as possible before Thrawn shows his hand.

The question in relation to the Star Wars characters would be, who would be the Sun and Moon' drivers in this instance? Sabine and Ezra? Ahsoka and Thrawn? Something completely unrelated to known characters and more related to whatever it is Baylan is sensing? In his effort to end the cycle he accidentally restarts it via giving Palpatine his way to return? Or was that not the cycle in question, but something for the Rey film later on?
The closest match I can think of for the Sun and the Moon is the Son and the Daughter, both in visuals and diametric opposition. Of course, they're both dead, but there could be another pair of similar, or at least analogous avatars of the force for this galaxy.
 
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I think rumors of his return have been going on for sometime due to the dreams of the witch mothers.
I expect Morgan's plans were helped by top Imperial loyalists
 
ETA: You know what just randomly occurred to me? Bendu's last words to Thrawn: -
"I see your defeat. Like many arms surrounding you in a cold embrace."
For years we've assumed that was meant to be what went down with the purrgil, but what if that's not the full story? What if that final defeat is not behind him, but ahead?
I wonder about this because now we see Thrawn, surrounded by what we're generally assuming are animated corpses . . . that's a lot of arms of the decidedly cold persuasion.

I mean I'm not saying Thrawn is definitely going to end up getting torn apart limb from limb by a vengeful horde of zombies of his own making . . . but I'm not NOT saying it might maybe could possibly be the general direction this may or may not be headed.

I think rumors of his return have been going on for sometime due to the dreams of the witch mothers.
I expect Morgan's plans were helped by top Imperial loyalists
I don't know, Pellaeon doesn't seem the sort to put a huge amount of stock in prophecies, scrying, and witchdreams. I think if he's out there evangelising for Thrawn, it's because he knows he's back.
 
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Something I don't get: at the end of the episode, why does it seem like Thrawn is ordering Morgan to fire on the purrgil? Aren't his own people manning the guns?
 
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