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For All Mankind Trailer - Apple TV- SPOILER

I'm going to make a prediction now that Ed has been on Mars the entire time since the end of S3, and never does go back to Earth.

Wouldn't surprise me given his age - returning to a 1G envioronment would not be a pleasant experience after the time on Mars unless he was on ship with gravity but even then after an extended tour on Mars it would be hard.
 
That is one thing the show hasn't talked about yet: how long can astronauts remain on Mars (.38-g) or the Moon (.16-g) before the effects of low gravity become irreversible? (As in the astronaut can no longer return to and live in a 1-g environment). That would be something for the medical community in this timeline to be cracking on.
 
Yeah, I hope that's something explored, along with the effects on Kelly's child (I forget if they got a name yet).

That was one of the (many!) things I loved about Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy because that's exactly the kind of thing he explored. And since no one seems to want to ever adapt that magnificent trilogy, this is the best place to explore such science. For now anyways.
 
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Anyone recognize the flag on the far right? Or the mostly black one on the left?
This image (and more) from here
https://gizmodo.com/for-all-mankind-season-4-release-date-trailer-apple-tv-1850832140
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Anyone recognize the flag on the far right? Or the mostly black one on the left?
This image (and more) from here
https://gizmodo.com/for-all-mankind-season-4-release-date-trailer-apple-tv-1850832140
V0Z5PRy.png

I can't tell with either one. I'm not entirely sure the black flag is actually black -- it could be dark green. I wonder if it might be the flag of Helios? The ad referred to Helios as "working with other nations" -- maybe Helios has assumed the status of a sovereign state on Mars?

The red flag is also puzzling. It broadly resembles the flags of several republics of the Soviet Union with the yellow initials written out, but none of the ones I can find on Wikipedia have text so large and centered.
 
It's possible they aren't real, we know that the geopolitics of the ATL are a bit different that our own, over and above the Soviet Union still being around.

Yea. If you remember in an earlier season the Soviets decided *NOT* to invade Afghanistan in the For All Mankind timeline because they instead used the military budget towards space. So that entire situation in their universe may be fairly different from our own. Which could also explain the no 9/11 because who knows what happens to Bin Laden without first gaining recognition and prestige as part of the fight against the Soviets.

I wonder if with Margo in Moscow we may get a storyline showing a break-up of the Soviet Union.
 
Yea. If you remember in an earlier season the Soviets decided *NOT* to invade Afghanistan in the For All Mankind timeline because they instead used the military budget towards space. So that entire situation in their universe may be fairly different from our own. Which could also explain the no 9/11 because who knows what happens to Bin Laden without first gaining recognition and prestige as part of the fight against the Soviets.

I wonder if with Margo in Moscow we may get a storyline showing a break-up of the Soviet Union.

With the Soviet Union lasting into the 21st century, there is probably a LOT that happens in our timeline that wouldn't have happened in theirs. For those old enough to remember, for all that we lived under the constant threat of nuclear war with the Soviets, the world was a relatively stable place otherwise, because east and west tended to keep everyone else in line. Most of the middle eastern troubles of the past generation probably wouldn't have happened at all, or happened on a much smaller scale in the world of the show.
 
With the Soviet Union lasting into the 21st century, there is probably a LOT that happens in our timeline that wouldn't have happened in theirs. For those old enough to remember, for all that we lived under the constant threat of nuclear war with the Soviets, the world was a relatively stable place otherwise, because east and west tended to keep everyone else in line. Most of the middle eastern troubles of the past generation probably wouldn't have happened at all, or happened on a much smaller scale in the world of the show.

Yep... Plus so much in our world about the Middle East and the actual importance of it has always been heavily intertwined with oil resources and in the For All Mankind universe we've seen them move to alternative energy because of using helium-3 for fission and Ron Moore has said in universe you had a very widespread adoption of nuclear power plants (even before helium-3 allowed for fission).

I wouldn't be shocked if in their universe the "Middle East" is more or less treated like how Africa is regarded in ours.
 
Yep... Plus so much in our world about the Middle East and the actual importance of it has always been heavily intertwined with oil resources and in the For All Mankind universe we've seen them move to alternative energy because of using helium-3 for fusion and Ron Moore has said in universe you had a very widespread adoption of nuclear power plants (even before helium-3 allowed for fusion).

I wouldn't be shocked if in their universe the "Middle East" is more or less treated like how Africa is regarded in ours.

FTFY. BIG difference between fission and fusion. ;)
 
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Yep... Plus so much in our world about the Middle East and the actual importance of it has always been heavily intertwined with oil resources and in the For All Mankind universe we've seen them move to alternative energy because of using helium-3 for fission and Ron Moore has said in universe you had a very widespread adoption of nuclear power plants (even before helium-3 allowed for fission).

I wouldn't be shocked if in their universe the "Middle East" is more or less treated like how Africa is regarded in ours.

On the other hand, given that Central Africa is the source of a lot of mineral resources needed for things like electric cars and the like, I wouldn't be surprised if Central Africa assumes a role in the international system of the For All Mankind-verse that's similar to the role inhabited by Middle East oil countries today: the source of a vital resource the imperial powers need to maintain their ways of life, with a local aristocracy that oppresses their populations with the support of those imperial powers.

(Seriously, countries with vital resources like oil or minerals can be some of the worst places in the world to live, because the local elite can run their extraction operations without much popular support -- structurally, they're able to avoid giving the people a voice in their systems precisely because their economies don't depend on having a large percentage of the population also having wealth and power.)
 
FTFY. BIG difference between fission and fusion. ;)
Oops, yea. Should have been fusion since it involved using helium-3 for 'clean' nuclear.

The 'fission' reactors though seem to have been more widely used in their universe according to Ron Moore and then obviously once they had a safer/cleaner alternative with Helium-3 it allowed for fusion reactors and was just a "game-changer"

More widespread adoption of electric cars by the late 80s/early 90s. I think NASA was making bank in that universe off the government allowing them to license their technology and they had been doing a lot more research into EV because of the presence on the moon.
 
Oops, yea. Should have been fusion since it involved using helium-3 for 'clean' nuclear.

The 'fission' reactors though seem to have been more widely used in their universe according to Ron Moore and then obviously once they had a safer/cleaner alternative with Helium-3 it allowed for fusion reactors and was just a "game-changer"

More widespread adoption of electric cars by the late 80s/early 90s. I think NASA was making bank in that universe off the government allowing them to license their technology and they had been doing a lot more research into EV because of the presence on the moon.

This is a big part why i love the show so much - tiny changes in events lead to big effects later on and the show is not even concentrating on some of them to show the auxilliary effects of the space program in the civilian sector.

For the last few days i have been in a circle on Youtube concerning fusion energy, it started with an interesting video and the YT algorithm of course flooded me with similar videos so i took a dive to get up to speed on the current developments. Some of the private companies are so on fire right now and make very bold claims - commercially viable net energy by 2024 is the most optimistic one but they do present the arguments so well that even i can understand the basic physics behind it with my limited thermonuclear physics knowledge to get excited.

I hope a true breakthrough really happens within a decade or two, the implications will be massive and if a method proves to be actually commercially viable i figure the company or group will be bombarded with money to refine it and put reactors on the planet as fast as possible. I can't even begin to summarize how much this would change.
 
On the other hand, given that Central Africa is the source of a lot of mineral resources needed for things like electric cars and the like, I wouldn't be surprised if Central Africa assumes a role in the international system of the For All Mankind-verse that's similar to the role inhabited by Middle East oil countries today: the source of a vital resource the imperial powers need to maintain their ways of life, with a local aristocracy that oppresses their populations with the support of those imperial powers.

(Seriously, countries with vital resources like oil or minerals can be some of the worst places in the world to live, because the local elite can run their extraction operations without much popular support -- structurally, they're able to avoid giving the people a voice in their systems precisely because their economies don't depend on having a large percentage of the population also having wealth and power.)
Another thing Africa has going for it in relation to an increased exploitation of space travel is the sheer volume of prime launch real-estate. As everyone knows, the most efficient place on Earth to launch a spaceship to orbit from is the equator, and nobody has as much equatorial territory as central Africa. In this world there could be a massive influx of wealth and (more critically) infrastructure into that part of the world to build dozens, if not hundreds of new spaceports. Drastically increasing the standard of living and education as demand for skilled workers, and aerospace engineers literally skyrockets.
 
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