Spoilers AHSOKA series [Spoiler Discussion]

[Reverend]

At least with Omega, we really feel like she's a kid. But I agree that seeing her in live action as she is in Bad Batch would be pretty horrifying, too.

Yeah, I was going to mention Omega, but on reflection her portrayal is actually about what you'd expect in a live action version too. At least in terms of tone, 'Bad Batch' is way more grounded than early 'Clone Wars'. Of course actually *seeing* her in a live action context would still feel a little shocking, all the same.

I do rather suspect we might see a live action Omega before too long, though perhaps no at that age. Indeed that being in the pipeline sooner rather than later could be the precise reason why they cast Keisha Castle-Hughes as Omega's full grown "sister" clone. With the final season of Bad Batch due out next year, that means they're already deep into production and likely have a lock on where her character ends up by the finale, potentially freeing her up to make the jump to the Mandoverse.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Yeah, I'll be surprised if she doesn't appear in the post-ROTJ timeline.

 

[Reverend]

Oh, I meant to point this out before, but it might be worth taking another look at Filloni's trading card artwork. For those not familiar; he did these a while back to depict what might have gone on with Ahsoka while stranded on Malachor.

Very clear visual metaphors for a journey through the underworld, death and rebirth, with the waters as both a crossroads between realms, both physical and metaphysical. Seems as though he used a lot of the same ideas when making this episode.
From a more mundane standpoint, it probably means none of this actually happened since it was clearly meant to depict her transformation into Ahsoka the White. That has now been deferred a decade, so she probably just grabbed one of the Inquisitors' TIEs after Vader departed. Maul took one of the three, so that means there should have been two more left behind.

Side note: has there ever been an official ruling on whether or not voidspace/WBW is the same thing as "the netherworld of the force"? This latest episode does make me inclined to this it is, or at the very least one aspect of it.

ETA: You know it just occurred to me that from Ahsoka's POV, in the space of just a few hours at most, she had to face not just three Inquisitors, but Maul, Vader AND Sidious, the later of which while counselling future Ezra through the death of Kanan who from her perspective is still alive AND try and process what just went down with Anakin. So it's probably for the best she didn't also go on a vision quest through the catacombs after all. That day was weird and stressful enough as it was.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Wasn't the WBW referred to as a "conduit between the living and the dead" by the Imperial archaeologist guy in Rebels?

 

[Nerys Myk]

They also use the phrase "heir to the empire" which is at least suggestive.

Not to me. I’m a film/TV guy.

 

[Wingcommanderdarkwolf01]

I love this show

 

[Reverend]

Wasn't the WBW referred to as a "conduit between the living and the dead" by the Imperial archaeologist guy in Rebels?

Yup, and Qui-Gon (certified dead person) said he was in a place where time has no meaning, which also seems to fit the description of voidspace.

 

[cooleddie74]

The WBW for all practical purposes may well be the Jedi afterlife. That's where Anakin first found himself after dying on the second Death Star.

 

[Reverend]

Oh, looks like the new character posters just dropped, giving us a much clearer view of Skyguy, Snips & Rex.

Some interesting details here. For one, it was hard for me to tell with all the pink and orange dust & smoke, but Anakin is indeed sporting the purple & blue robes, the Jedi logo is debossed rather than printed, and unlike his RotS outfit, he's wearing gloves on both hands. Curious that the armour seems to be in just three pieces (plus the pauldrons.) I'd always imagined it to be more like Roman segmentata than Vader's one solid piece.
As suspected, Padawan Tano's outfit looks like a hybrid of her season 3 redesign and the TotJ robes, only without the midriff and random boob window, thankfully. Not visible in this image, but the leggings were definitely lighter like the season 1 & TotJ designs.
Not much to say about Rex since we've already seem them make phase 2 armor, except to say that the custom helmet is perfectly executed. Still can't quite see what's going on with the DC-17s, but I'm going to take a guess that they're custom covers mounted on airsoft desert eagles. Definitely look more beefy than the STIs they use for the Mandalorian westars.
ETA: I've never noticed it before, but it looks like Rex's chestplate is custom too! Guess he didn't put much stock in the Phase 2 chest piece.

 

[Captrek]

The WBW for all practical purposes may well be the Jedi afterlife. That's where Anakin first found himself after dying on the second Death Star.

It seems unlikely that getting knocked off a high cliff would kill Ahsoka. We know she’s capable of falling astonishing distances and landing on her feet no problem. This of course was over water, but still.

I don’t know how she ended up in the WBW, but ultimately it was just a standard Star Wars Force vision and not the awful storytelling crutch that I feared it would be, so I’m not terribly concerned with it.

As suspected, Padawan Tano's outfit looks like a hybrid of her season 3 redesign and the TotJ robes, only without the midriff and random boob window, thankfully.

My headcanon: adult Ahsoka is uncomfortable with the revealing outfits she wore in her younger days, so when she has her vision the Force does her the courtesy of putting her in something she’s comfortable with.

That works until we revisit the era in live action in a non-vision scenario.

 

[Set Harth]

It seems unlikely that getting knocked off a high cliff would kill Ahsoka.

Unless she hit one of the rocks.

 

[Captrek]

Unless she hit one of the rocks.

So?

 

[Reverend]

Still trying to wrap my brain around the idea that all this is a thing that exists. Even just five years ago, this would have been the most out there Clone Wars fan wish-fulfilment idea ever. It's like watching fan art come to life, and it's actually good, which is the real shocker.

My headcanon: adult Ahsoka is uncomfortable with the revealing outfits she wore in her younger days, so when she has her vision the Force does her the courtesy of putting her in something she’s comfortable with.

That works until we revisit the era in live action in a non-vision scenario.

My headcanon: Ahsoka always wore sensible Jedi robes, and the animators were made to go stand in the corner and think about what they did, right next to whoever drew *that* outfit for her in the 'Slaves of the Republic' comic. You all know which one . . .

 

[Ithekro]

With the narrator intro for all The Clone Wars shows, it stands to reason that the cartoon could be seen as a sort of in-universe propaganda piece. Or at least a tale told later by others who took liberties. The question would be who would make such a show for the citizens of the Galaxy? The New Republic? Certainly not the Empire. While the Jedi don't come off all that great in the show, it would still go very much against the Imperial narrative, (plus Palpatine kind of obviously being a Sith Lord and playing both sides of the war). The New Republic might go for it, even though it does show the Galactic Republic's flaws, and the Jedi as imperfect.

I wonder if, without the full context of Revenge of the Sith and other Star Wars films/shows, a citizen of the New Republic, could figure out about the origin of Darth Vader from just The Clone Wars. Remembering that such things as The Imperial March are just a piece of real music to them and not a specific Vader theme.

 

[Captrek]

My headcanon: Ahsoka always wore sensible Jedi robes, and the animators were made to go stand in the corner and think about what they did, right next to whoever drew *that* outfit for her in the 'Slaves of the Republic' comic. You all know which one . . .

I guess that would also explain why a lot of the animated characters don’t look like their live-action counterparts.

I wonder if, without the full context of Revenge of the Sith and other Star Wars films/shows, a citizen of the New Republic, could figure out about the origin of Darth Vader from just The Clone Wars. Remembering that such things as The Imperial March are just a piece of real music to them and not a specific Vader theme.

It’s still an Imperial theme in-universe, if not specifically a Vader theme. So it does suggest that “angry Anakin” is in some way connected to the Empire. Also, he sees Vader’s helmet during his vision of his future on Mortis.

 

[Reverend]

With the narrator intro for all The Clone Wars shows, it stands to reason that the cartoon could be seen as a sort of in-universe propaganda piece. Or at least a tale told later by others who took liberties. The question would be who would make such a show for the citizens of the Galaxy? The New Republic? Certainly not the Empire. While the Jedi don't come off all that great in the show, it would still go very much against the Imperial narrative, (plus Palpatine kind of obviously being a Sith Lord and playing both sides of the war). The New Republic might go for it, even though it does show the Galactic Republic's flaws, and the Jedi as imperfect.

I wonder if, without the full context of Revenge of the Sith and other Star Wars films/shows, a citizen of the New Republic, could figure out about the origin of Darth Vader from just The Clone Wars. Remembering that such things as The Imperial March are just a piece of real music to them and not a specific Vader theme.

Pretty sure the intro-voice over is just meant to be a way of doing the opening crawl, but in the style of an 1930's or 40's newsreel announcer. There's no metatextual layers to it.

 

[Crewman6]

Many in the Empire were xenophobic and chauvinistic and so they might just reject him

That's just some EU bullshit that was never the intent. The PT basically refutes this, as almost everyone in Palpatine's inner circle is an alien.

 

[cooleddie74]

 

[The Nth Doctor]

My headcanon: Ahsoka always wore sensible Jedi robes, and the animators were made to go stand in the corner and think about what they did, right next to whoever drew *that* outfit for her in the 'Slaves of the Republic' comic. You all know which one . . .

I didn't (since I haven't read any of the comics), so I had to Google it and...

Wow. Just. Wow.

Need a fourth image of Ahsoka looking at Sabine.

 

[Tuskin38]

and the animators were made to go stand in the corner and think about what they did

There's Filoni art with her in her Season 1 outfit, it could have been him who designed it.