Spoilers AHSOKA series [Spoiler Discussion]
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There are some interesting theories going around about who Marrok might really be.
Of course the Ezra possibility was already discussed on here, but I do like the Baris idea. I think her fate is still a big hanging thread from The Clone Wars, and her history with Ahsoka would make that an interesting reveal.
The Anakin clone theory is an interesting one too, we already know that Hayden Christensen is in the show, but everyone had been assuming it was in a flashback. Forcing Ahsoka to confront another version of Anakin could be interesting.
Of course the Ezra possibility was already discussed on here, but I do like the Baris idea. I think her fate is still a big hanging thread from The Clone Wars, and her history with Ahsoka would make that an interesting reveal.
The Anakin clone theory is an interesting one too, we already know that Hayden Christensen is in the show, but everyone had been assuming it was in a flashback. Forcing Ahsoka to confront another version of Anakin could be interesting.
Yeah, but it only worked because the fighters inexplicably
stopped focusing on the ship and came in close to try to pick off Ahsoka. Which made no sense! The ship was already dead in the water; why didn’t they just ignore her and keep hitting the ship from a distance?
It was a thing in The Clone Wars.
Not to mention the foreshadowing in Mando S3.The Nth Doctor said:
Very Star Warsy. Liked that aspect of it.
Hell, I liked all of it. There just wasn't enough of it. The characters are basically caught up to what we know now, story-wise. Almost.
C'mon, Dave! You can do better than 30 minute episodes! Yer killin' us here!
Hell, I liked all of it. There just wasn't enough of it. The characters are basically caught up to what we know now, story-wise. Almost.
C'mon, Dave! You can do better than 30 minute episodes! Yer killin' us here!
Oh, of course! How could I forget that lovely moment?!
Rogue One as well. I’m just not a fan of it.
Very good episde, i liked it a lot.
Now onto my main question that came with this episode ( and maybe i missed some key elements from elsewhere) - can anyone be trained to use the Force and to what degree?
I once was pretty knowledgeable about this universe but i haven't been reading boks and comics for over a decade now ( last major series i read was the Yuzhaan Vong war), so my knowledge is outdated but i was always under the impression that you would need to have some sort of measurable innate power/connection to the Force in order to begin training as a Force user ( let's disregard the awful Midichlorian concept for a moment). To be a full blown Jedi though once certainly needs to have a close connection to the Force but everybody else?
This episode seems to imply that anyone can train to use Force powers, it "just" takes dedication and certain mindset because the Force is present within all living creatures. Is that something new that came up with Ahsoka or was that something that's been within the Star Wars universe forever or introduced as a concept in recent years and i missed it.
Now onto my main question that came with this episode ( and maybe i missed some key elements from elsewhere) - can anyone be trained to use the Force and to what degree?
I once was pretty knowledgeable about this universe but i haven't been reading boks and comics for over a decade now ( last major series i read was the Yuzhaan Vong war), so my knowledge is outdated but i was always under the impression that you would need to have some sort of measurable innate power/connection to the Force in order to begin training as a Force user ( let's disregard the awful Midichlorian concept for a moment). To be a full blown Jedi though once certainly needs to have a close connection to the Force but everybody else?
This episode seems to imply that anyone can train to use Force powers, it "just" takes dedication and certain mindset because the Force is present within all living creatures. Is that something new that came up with Ahsoka or was that something that's been within the Star Wars universe forever or introduced as a concept in recent years and i missed it.
Well everyone has a midichlorian count. The higher it is the more easy it is to use the force. It looks like if you have a low number, you need great concentration to access it. The Jedi Order probably had a minimum number they would deem suitable to be trained into Jedi.
Uh, no. In TLJ, Luke talks about the failures of the old Jedi order and how they screwed everything up (and created Vader, etc.) Now maybe he only came to that revelation after his own disillusionment after Kylo, but we can't be sure.
There's nothing to suggest he was repeating the mistakes of the past and just having (or even reading) the old Jedi texts doesn't qualify. Simply having a Jedi order doesn't mean anything and that's basically all we know.
(And, BTW, anytime anyone says "It's Kennedy's fault" loses credibility instantly.)
Phantom Menace: Sorry, heroes, we'd love to help with your urgent problem, but we're politicians and bureaucracy just gets in the way. Oops.
Rogue One: Sorry, heroes, we'd love to help with your urgent problem, but we're politicians and bureaucracy just gets in the way. Oops.
The Force Awakens: Sorry, heroes, we'd love to help with your urgent problem, but we're politicians and bureaucracy just gets in the way. Oops.
The Mandalorinan: Sorry, heroes, we'd love to help with your urgent problem, but we're politicians and bureaucracy just gets in the way. Oops.
Ahsoka: Sorry, heroes, we'd love to help with your urgent problem, but we're politicians and bureaucracy-- STOP!
We fucking get it! Come up with a new idea, FFS. We've seen this before. It's boring. It's redundant. It's not remotely interesting. It's crappy storytelling the 100th time. The Republic(s) (old and new) deserve to friggin' die when they're so bloody incompetent and willfully blind. Ugh, please move on from this crap, already. You don't have to elevate your heroes by making the power structures so weak. It's unnecessary and unimaginative and lame.
It also adds insult to injury dragging poor Genevieve O'Reilly into the mix, who was soo good and such a rich, compelling character in "Andor." And now she has to sit at the friggin' Filoni kids table just being another boring-ass, ineffectual politician yet again in a subpar show. Ugh.
Rogue One: Sorry, heroes, we'd love to help with your urgent problem, but we're politicians and bureaucracy just gets in the way. Oops.
The Force Awakens: Sorry, heroes, we'd love to help with your urgent problem, but we're politicians and bureaucracy just gets in the way. Oops.
The Mandalorinan: Sorry, heroes, we'd love to help with your urgent problem, but we're politicians and bureaucracy just gets in the way. Oops.
Ahsoka: Sorry, heroes, we'd love to help with your urgent problem, but we're politicians and bureaucracy-- STOP!
We fucking get it! Come up with a new idea, FFS. We've seen this before. It's boring. It's redundant. It's not remotely interesting. It's crappy storytelling the 100th time. The Republic(s) (old and new) deserve to friggin' die when they're so bloody incompetent and willfully blind. Ugh, please move on from this crap, already. You don't have to elevate your heroes by making the power structures so weak. It's unnecessary and unimaginative and lame.
It also adds insult to injury dragging poor Genevieve O'Reilly into the mix, who was soo good and such a rich, compelling character in "Andor." And now she has to sit at the friggin' Filoni kids table just being another boring-ass, ineffectual politician yet again in a subpar show. Ugh.
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I guess I'm not the only who didn't care for the episode. LOL!!!
The one thing that keeps bugging me is that this show should have been called 'Sabine', not Ahsoka. It's her story we're following. Ahsoka doesn't have a story so far.
Isn’t that the tradition of these shows? Book of Boba Fett had 2 episodes about the Mandalorian.
Episode 3 was better. I was worried it was going to be a lot of people standing in a room talking but it shifted gears and tried to do something exciting.
Don't worry. Ben Solo will wipe out all those possibilities.Don't let Jacen join the Jedi. Last thing we need is Darth Caedus showing up.
You never know with this show. They deal with time travel after all
Maybe Marrok is Jacen from the future.
I like the idea it’s a clone of Anakin. Their “Luuke” perhaps?
Unfortunately, I agree. I can't really see the existing Disney/Lucasfilm leadership OKaying that. They could do it if they wanted to, but I don't see them doing it. But that could change at any time with a change in corporate and creative leadership.
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