Spoilers AHSOKA series [Spoiler Discussion]

[Turtletrekker]

I just had a conversation with a friend of mine who had never seen Rebels and commented that he was surprised how much he enjoyed it anyway, not knowing the back story.

Frankly, as much as watching Rebels will add context and layers to the story being told here, everything that you NEED to know for THIS story is included in the story.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

My favorite 'period' of Star Wars is from 1977 to about the end of 1980, the first six months or so after ESB. We had two movies, the comics, the toys, and Splinter of the Mind's Eye. And that was IT.

The original trilogy (and later the special editions) was the only Star Wars that existed for me until the prequels came out. I never had access or even knowledge about the books or comics or any toys, I just watched the hell out of that 4 tape VHS set my dad got used at some shop. This is probably why I am only into the film/tv media now.

I don't mean that flippantly but I don't know how else to describe it. I gave up on Rebels after the first 5 episodes as it just didn't hook me in, similarly to Clone Wars. Nothing against the shows but they lacked that part that I feel connected to in any way when it came to Star Wars.

I couldn't get into Rebels when it first came out. I think I only forced myself to watch more than 3 episodes after the series ended because I wanted to see Ahsoka again. I don't actually remember at what point I started to enjoy it but somewhere after the middle I was fully engaged. Episodes I use to not like or care about are now great on a rewatch. Clone Wars was much easier for me to get into. I hope you enjoy Ahsoka!

 

[fireproof78]

everything that you NEED to know for THIS story is included in the story.

Good.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I got some Young Kirk driving of a cliff to the music of “Sabotage“ vibes from Sabine‘s road racing scene.

 

[Crewman6]

Loved it. You didn’t. I don’t have to write about it though. I’ll just enjoy the next 6 weeks.

You can write about it or not. You can read my writing about it or not (I can't imagine I'll write all that much more, but who knows?)

In any event, I hope you continue to derive enjoyment out of the show for the duration of its run (and beyond.)

Have fun.

 

[Crewman6]

Frankly, as much as watching Rebels will add context and layers to the story being told here, everything that you NEED to know for THIS story is included in the story.

True. If you're a fan of laborious and tiresome exposition, the show does (more or less) bring you up to speed.

But you won't have even remotely the emotional investment that others will.

You may have the "facts." But the show makes no effort to make you actually care about any of its characters.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Okay, after a bit more digging, here is some info on the song played during Sabine's first scene.

https://decider.com/2023/08/22/ahsoka-sabine-wren-song-igyah-kah-artist/

 

[fireproof78]

True. If you're a fan of laborious and tiresome exposition, the show does (more or less) bring you up to speed.

But you won't have even remotely the emotional investment that others will.

You may have the "facts." But the show makes no effort to make you actually care about any of its characters.

This is an interesting thought experiment. On the one hand, I had zero care for Din Djarin by the end of 2 seasons. On the other hand, I did care about Ahsoka in her one episode appearance in both Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett.

Curious.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Din is training an incredibly force-sensitive former Jedi padawan to be a Mandalorian.
Ahsoka is training a non-force-sensitive Mandalorian to be a Jedi.

The juxtaposition itself is nice, but I am waiting for a reunion on Navarro.

The armourer's reaction will be priceless:

“This is the way”

 

[thribs]

I thought they said she was force sensitive. Just not very.

 

[fireproof78]

I thought they said she was force sensitive. Just not very.

Wow...has it been so long?

Kanan doesn't think she can be trained to use the Darksaber properly, leading to this exchange with Hera:

Hera: "Or maybe because she doesn't have the Force, you don't believe she can do this?"
Kanan: "No. The Force resides in all living things. But you have to be open to it. Sabine is blocked. Her mind is conflicted. She's so expressive and yet so tightly wound. She's so..."
Hera: "Mandalorian."

There was a point in time, before he started the prequels and invented minichlorians, that George said anyone could use the force if they trained. He compared it to a muscle IIRC.

 

[FreezeC77]

There was a small part of me who was waiting for the inquisitor type(former inquisitor?) that Ahsoka was fighting to get away helicopter style tho

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[FreezeC77]

I thought they said she was force sensitive. Just not very.

In the obviously not-canon at all expanded universe which I think is now called 'star wars legends' or something.

That's how Corran Horn was. He was a fighter pilot in the x-wing stories and discovered to be force-sensitive, but *VERY VERY WEAK* in the force. He did train and end up on the new Jedi Council I believe though.

 

[Jedi Marso]

In the obviously not-canon at all expanded universe which I think is now called 'star wars legends' or something.

That's how Corran Horn was. He was a fighter pilot in the x-wing stories and discovered to be force-sensitive, but *VERY VERY WEAK* in the force. He did train and end up on the new Jedi Council I believe though.

I think Corran wasn't weak in the Force so much as his talents weren't the standard ones by Jedi standards. He was poor at telekinesis, but with stuff like creating illusions in the minds of others, and the Jedi mind trick, he was above average. He did have Jedi-like foresight and reflexes, which probably explained his successes as a member of Rogue Squadron.

 

[Crewman6]

This is an interesting thought experiment. On the one hand, I had zero care for Din Djarin by the end of 2 seasons. On the other hand, I did care about Ahsoka in her one episode appearance in both Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett.

Curious.

The character development in "The Mandalorian" is also pretty poor.

The best, most interesting episode of the entire show remains the show's third episode, since that's the only time Mando actually grows and changes as a character.

He makes the decision to stop being an emotion-less gun-for-hire and makes the decision to actually step in and rescue Grogu.

Up until that point, he was a very generic, off-the-shelf character. And, after that point, his emotional arc is basically complete and he's had nothing that's come close to that level of dramatic importance to grapple with.

 

[fireproof78]

The character development in "The Mandalorian" is also pretty poor.

For Din.

For the ancillary characters I'm usually all in. Which is amusing to me.

Ahsoka will be a curious case for me. I don't mind the character (damning with faint praise but I have no other way to put it) but I wasn't really "all in" with her until "The Jedi" episode of Mandalorian. But, now that I am in with her the series has more potential to me.

 

[Crewman6]

Just delete your account, your constant negativity is grating

Feel free to read my positive comments in threads for content that is actually good.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

re: Mandalorian and character development, besides everything with Grogu, taking charge of him, trying to do what's best in letting him go, trying to do what's best and getting him back and accepting him as his foster child we have him break his faith, have his faith challenged, has his faith restored, pass his code on to his ward, go from a loner to having a network of friends. For Star Wars, that's not half bad.

 

[Aragorn]

Is that masked Inquisitor going to be Ezra? Are they going with a Tron/Rinzler story?

Some people are speculating:

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that it's Starkiller because Sam Witwer is in the credits for additional voices. But that kind of work is something he does and additional voices could mean anything, even just making sounds.

 

[thribs]

Can’t be Galen Marek. He would have defeated Ashoka in a second.