This place was attacked by Gorn and Omicron Ceti III ended up being undone by a spaceborne plant that found its way to that planet and thrived on the native radiation. Star Trek: we'll give you a colony AND the reasons why it's soon doomed!
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"
- Thread starter Commander Richard
- Start date
They're choosing to ignore presumably 200 years of city planning, presumably after humans learned to recreate better cities/settlements after humanity nearly wiped itself out, to recreate a layout that has proven to be really bad design.
I know 23rd century is supposed to be post-scarcity, so presumably there are no homeless people and everyone is cared for, but it's not like there's unlimited land/planets to give everyone their own giant Picard-like vineyards.
Some of the TNG colonies made some theoretical sense, like the society that was focused on "genetic purity". The fact that this colony isn't part of the Federation because it would "draw too much attention" - so it's a bunch of humans who took off on their own - makes it seem ideological here as well, which is why I assume they are anti-technology.
But maybe they left because they hate the current President of the Federation and think he stole the election. I dunno. lol
That bugs me too, but you can argue that this is relatively early on in Starfleet days. We didn't see many aliens in TOS, either. Things get much more diverse by the time of TNG...
TMP is really the first time in the production history of the franchise we see live action variety of aliens on a ship. TAS gave us a lot of exotic aliens, many of whom were Federation members, but that's animation and thus a lot easier to pull off on a limited budget.
A
Amaris
Guest
Well, about that...
Also "Sweetheart, I once performed an emergency C-section on a pregnant Gorn. Octuplets, and let me tell you, those little bastards bite."
Except that there's no evidence that they're "antitechnology" in any meaningful way. They welcome people from starships to vaccinate them. Their community seems pretty comfortable - what exactly are they lacking, giant TV screens everywhere? They're not exactly Westworld, are they?
There are enough people in America who move away from cities when they get the chance to think that the "small American town" model still has a lot of appeal to a lot of people.
What would be the non-ideological reasons for moving to an empty planet a few hundred light-years from where you are, exactly? Other than some scheme to get rich, like the miners of "Mudd's Women" or "The Devil In The Dark?"
Again, people don't usually leave their homes because they like them.
Until "Journey To Babel" the Federation seemed to be primarily an association of human-colonized worlds with a few extraterrestrial allies - and by "few" I mean one: Vulcans. That seemed plausible enough, and still does. SNW has gone out of their way to evoke the original series in small, subtle ways as well as obvious ones. We've probably heard more references to "yeomen" in the last five or six episodes than we did in thirty-odd years of Roddenberry/Berman Trek.
But yes, the whole “evil biology” thing has turned the Gorn into the Magog from Andromeda and I’m not a big fan of this choice to say the least. Especially since it makes all of the adult Gorn culpable in what essentially are [insert verb for sexual assault][ camps.
I will give that the Gorn actually did something very proactive and more than the Klingons did this episode by putting up the demarcation line.
They, more than anyone else, have established the terms of peace for the Federation and them.
I will give that the Gorn actually did something very proactive and more than the Klingons did this episode by putting up the demarcation line.
They, more than anyone else, have established the terms of peace for the Federation and them.
Oh, I'm all for another word for colonization. Immigration doesn't seem quite right either, but it's closer. But even if they pick a place without indigenous sentient species, they will still affect the environment, right? I like science fiction that is concerned with all this issues and explores them. I think This Side of Paradise did it pretty well for its time.
In "Mudd's Women" Ben Childress and the two other miners on Rigel XII seemed to be there to get wealthy from lithium mining and sales. Yes, sales. Money. May not be Earth or the Federation's idea of money in the 20th and 21st century sense but TOS leaned heavily into human beings in the 23rd century doing things for profit and personal empowerment in some business field, and it seems to me like Childress and the others went there for the same reasons the miners in 1849 California went out West. To make the proverbial buck because back home they weren't making it.
Possibly, it depends on how ubiquitous terraforming is in the future. Was this a living planet like so many other Star Trek worlds (possibly abandoned by the Gorn but still "their's?") or was it a lifeless planet that was possessed of Earth-like gravity and a nitrogen atmosphere that they could planet crops on without having to build an environment from scratch?
A
Amaris
Guest
Coordinated Schlepping, maybe?
A
Amaris
Guest
Indeed. Even in an age where everyone's needs are met, there are going to be people who crave more, and so they head outward into space.
I mean, Harry Mudd wasn't selling wives to remote settlers because he had all his needs met and was happy with what he already owned and had. He wanted more, and recruiting wives for lonely men on distant colony or mining worlds might give Harry that extra gold in his pocket for the times he might need it.
I love how recreating a Midwestern town in what is probably just one of those Wild West style communities is something that bothers people on an intense level.
But yes, I presume someone got a prefabricated ANYTOWN USA from their replicator catalog and deposited it.
Its probably next to Wild West Town and Mini-Paris.
But yes, I presume someone got a prefabricated ANYTOWN USA from their replicator catalog and deposited it.
Its probably next to Wild West Town and Mini-Paris.
Does it? All Batel says is they built the town on the "small town model" and made it look like 20th century Mid Western America. Thir tech level doesn't seem to match that, with vehicles that seem electric and not internal combustion. Their clothing is "contemporary" not 20th Century. Also Batel and Chapel's conversation takes place in front of a window with a big medical services emblem on it. I assume that's a clinic or doctors office.
As I said, Star Trek has a long history of providing aid to colonies, outposts and science expedition.
Man Trap- Medical exams for the Craters
Dagger of the Mind- Transporting cargo to the Tantalus Colony
This Side of Paradise- Check up on the Omicron Ceti III Colony
Devil in the Dark- Answering a distress call from the Janus VI Colony
Operation: Annihilate!- Tracking an outbreak if insanity to the Deneva Colony
The Deadly Years- Medical Check up for the people on Gamma Hydra IV
And the Children Shall Lead- Answering a distress call from Triacus
Whom Gods Destroy- Delivering a new medicine to Elba II
Cloud Minders- Getting xenite to a planet ravaged by plague.
Similar threads
- Poll
- Poll
- Poll
- Poll