Not the ones he killed the old fashioned way.
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Not the ones he killed the old fashioned way.
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Inhumans was actively bad. Secret Invasion was shockingly so-so.
It certainly wasn't as bad as 'Inhumans'. I ended up fast forwarding through a good chunk of that show out of sheer boredom, whereas 'Secret Invasion' kept me engaged moment-to-moment (mostly by the sheer gravitas of the actors.)
That said, by the end of each, they did both leave me feeling like I'd just sat though an utterly pointless exercise.
I can't even be bothered to take the time to break down and dissect the many problems of SI. In fact, by this time tomorrow I'm pretty sure I'll have forgotten most of the details anyway. No loss.
The only thing I do wonder about is if this was the result of executive meddling, or just utter disinterest on the part of the writer(s) (no I can't be bothered to look up who wrote it either) , or perhaps both.
It feels like something that was assigned to a writers room by some Executive, rather than a pitch from someone that actually wanted to tell the story and had a strong take on it.
That said, by the end of each, they did both leave me feeling like I'd just sat though an utterly pointless exercise.
I can't even be bothered to take the time to break down and dissect the many problems of SI. In fact, by this time tomorrow I'm pretty sure I'll have forgotten most of the details anyway. No loss.
The only thing I do wonder about is if this was the result of executive meddling, or just utter disinterest on the part of the writer(s) (no I can't be bothered to look up who wrote it either) , or perhaps both.
It feels like something that was assigned to a writers room by some Executive, rather than a pitch from someone that actually wanted to tell the story and had a strong take on it.
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Don't agree. I think just about every Disney Plus production is better than The Inhumans, with the exception of She-Hulk. But I believe that despite its mediocrity (and I do believe it was mediocre), Secret Invasion is better than most of the other Disney Plus series, with the exception of two.
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The showrunner was a staff writter/EP on Mr. Robot, which certainly seems like decent chops for...what this show was meant to be anyway.
Keep in mind they have officially been given sanctuary by the Norwegian government, presumably that makes them protected.
As for finding the Skrulls a new home, it would also have to be one the Kree couldn't find either. Which makes it hard considering how powerful and spread out the Kree seem to be.
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Nothing to add, really. Very disappointing. Thank Zod for Olivia Coleman!
Well, if there's any silver lining to this... Emilia Clarke finally got an onscreen win. The Mother of Dragons is now the Mother of Skrulls.
How disappointing
How disapointing has MCU been since far from home. Ok the occasional bright spot (guardians 3, wandavision and a few more), but those seem the exception rather than the rule
in years gone past there was the occasional “dark world”. Today it seems like that would be the total high point.
I can forgive “experiments”. Externals, Moon Knight, those were very different and may or may not land as well.
But the last 12 months have just had bankable stories failing. Thor. Ant Man. Hell I didn’t like the way Spider-Man ended (yes I know that’s the Spider-Man curse. I don’t have to like it), and now Fury flops. And wipes out Maria Hill too.
The MCU used to feel larger than its iparts. It built and built and formed a coherent narrative. More recently it feels like there’s nobody steering the ship. There’s no connections between the outings, no crossovers of note, certainly not recently. What’s going on with Skrulls in Wakanda? Where was Sam Wilson when the president was attacked? How did the skrulls and flag smashers interact?
Fury was an old tired man at the start of the series. By episode 5 he suited up - he was back, and perhaps he’d never left.
But no, he’s barely in the finale. He learns no lessons, he barely grows, and he’s back to the sad old man he was at the start.
The only saving grace of this series IMO was Olivia Coleman.
How disapointing has MCU been since far from home. Ok the occasional bright spot (guardians 3, wandavision and a few more), but those seem the exception rather than the rule
in years gone past there was the occasional “dark world”. Today it seems like that would be the total high point.
I can forgive “experiments”. Externals, Moon Knight, those were very different and may or may not land as well.
But the last 12 months have just had bankable stories failing. Thor. Ant Man. Hell I didn’t like the way Spider-Man ended (yes I know that’s the Spider-Man curse. I don’t have to like it), and now Fury flops. And wipes out Maria Hill too.
The MCU used to feel larger than its iparts. It built and built and formed a coherent narrative. More recently it feels like there’s nobody steering the ship. There’s no connections between the outings, no crossovers of note, certainly not recently. What’s going on with Skrulls in Wakanda? Where was Sam Wilson when the president was attacked? How did the skrulls and flag smashers interact?
Fury was an old tired man at the start of the series. By episode 5 he suited up - he was back, and perhaps he’d never left.
But no, he’s barely in the finale. He learns no lessons, he barely grows, and he’s back to the sad old man he was at the start.
The only saving grace of this series IMO was Olivia Coleman.
For me, the MCU has been on a decline since the third Captain America movie in 2016 - a big disappointment for me. The only two productions I have truly enjoyed in the past seven years were "Black Panther" and "Hawkeye". But I feel that even those two productions had their flaws.
I wasn't that impressed by Olivia Coleman. Sure, I found her funny and entertaining. But I didn't find her character or her performance to be particularly compelling.
I wasn't that impressed by Olivia Coleman. Sure, I found her funny and entertaining. But I didn't find her character or her performance to be particularly compelling.
She also got to be the second in command of one of the biggest crime syndicates in the galaxy in Solo, so I'd say that was kind of a win too.
Shut up and take my money![/Fry]
The best moments of this show were SLJ and Don Cheadle sitting discussing racism and their formative experiences but that was undermined by the revelation that Cheadle wasn’t playing a black man who’d had to put up with all of that to get where he was, he was instead playing an alien pretending to be that man. I know there was some suggestion that Skrulls can take on the emotions of the people they’re impersonating but it still felt like a cheat.
Jackson and Colman were great together as were he and Mendelson and he and Charlayne Woodard. I did like seeing a little more of Fury’s background and the personal stuff in general was great. Jackson gave his most committee MCU performance in years.
But the actual story? An old Bond plot of the villains plotting to get Russia and America to go to war? Was that really the best they could come up with? What a shame to hang all the good character work and performances around this.
Jackson and Colman were great together as were he and Mendelson and he and Charlayne Woodard. I did like seeing a little more of Fury’s background and the personal stuff in general was great. Jackson gave his most committee MCU performance in years.
But the actual story? An old Bond plot of the villains plotting to get Russia and America to go to war? Was that really the best they could come up with? What a shame to hang all the good character work and performances around this.
I thought Civil War was fine, but it was also the first sign of "MCU disease" since it was the first non-Avengers film that didn't stand on its own merits and needed the context of other MCU films (not even just the earlier Captain America films, like even Avengers: Age of Ultron) in order to make sense.
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