She lost Korby before her first TOS appearance, gone missing 5 years before the episode. We just didn't hear about it until WALGMO
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She lost Korby before her first TOS appearance, gone missing 5 years before the episode. We just didn't hear about it until WALGMO
Something happens between her and Spock, and she has a whirlwind rebound romance with Kirby, resulting in a impulsive engagement since Korby is leaving for his expedition. Then he disappears and Chapel can't break up with someone who is MIA. Then she quits her bio-research job gets a field commission to stay on the ship.
Spock: Where is Christine? Is she safe? Is she all right?
Kirk: It seems she dumped you and is engaged to Roger Korby.
Spock: No! She loved me! We were in a relationship, I felt it!
(Kirk gives an evil grin as Spock breaks out of his sickbay restraints)
Spock: NOOOOO!!!!!!
Mournful operatic music plays as Pike hands over baby David to Carol Marcus to be raised, then walks off into the sunset. The scene cuts to the bridge of the Enterprise, now refit and shown in full TOS glory. Uhura finishes submitting a verbal report to Kirk before leaving as Spock approaches, solemnly crossing his arms as he takes his place next to Kirk, a grim expression as all traces of emotion from him are gone forever.
Roll credits!
No offense, but I'm not going to debate these point by point with you. I listed 10 things that I think make SNW pretty incompatible with TOS as we saw it. Obviously, they aren't the deal breakers for you that they are for me. And that's great!
And again, I'm enjoying SNW a lot. It's my favorite Trek show since DS9. I just don't entirely buy it as a prequel to TOS is all. If it were a true prequel, we wouldn't have to contrive explanations for why so many things they've shown don't fit. I'd rather just enjoy the show as is than drive myself nuts trying to reconcile all the contradictions.
Jesus is this terrible.
Why would I be offended?
That's just strange.
It's funny to me to see the different reactions of different people to this show and other shows. Reconciling contradictions use to be the fun, or so I was told. Nitpicking is part of being a Trek fan, so I was told. Now, attempting to reconcile is not worth it. It's fascinating on a wonderful level. No offense.
since the link didn't work for you...
I watched the first few scenes with Chapel and Spock from TOS again. It actually fits
Their very first scene together. She holds his hands, tells him she loves him. He doesn't resist, doesn't withdraw his hands, doesn't tell her to not touch him. Instead, he gets to a point where he has to tell himself to stay in control.
Chapel jokingly asks him this, to explain why she knows it's Korby's voice. Could easily be irony now, since she knows Spock was engaged. He doesn't say yes or no, just has a surprised face reaction.
Note Spock's face as Chapel is about to meet her lover...
...he does not seem neutral about it.
So there's no obvious reason to assume Spock didn't have any interest in Chapel at all in TOS. Nothing is contradicted, instead it adds to canon, enhances it. Just like Disco showed why Sarek was so opposed to Spock refusing the VSA admission he had saved for him at Burnham's expense.
Consider yourself lucky. At least this time, no non-TOS female character was used as a breeding sack for the Gorn and killed off. That's usually a recurring theme in these little alternative fanfic scenarios we're blessed with.
It's interesting because in real life in the workplace, etc. people very often accuse me of having no sense of humor, never smile, never make jokes etc. and sometimes ask me why.
I just show the 'ignored content' on pages like this to them as the reason (and it always gets people I show this to that this cruelty is towards real people over fictional characters). Sometimes I read it myself before a tough work meeting etc. to remind myself how cruel people are so I can be as serious and grim as possible. I wish I was joking...
If you can't unwind here and joke about fictional characters, with not a single bad thing said about real people in said joke, but then real people gang up on other posters because they don't like said jokes over... fictional characters (instead of just scrolling down and ignoring), it says a lot about the current state of the world.
I just show the 'ignored content' on pages like this to them as the reason (and it always gets people I show this to that this cruelty is towards real people over fictional characters). Sometimes I read it myself before a tough work meeting etc. to remind myself how cruel people are so I can be as serious and grim as possible. I wish I was joking...
If you can't unwind here and joke about fictional characters, with not a single bad thing said about real people in said joke, but then real people gang up on other posters because they don't like said jokes over... fictional characters (instead of just scrolling down and ignoring), it says a lot about the current state of the world.
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It's always been there in the world. Anonymity on the internet amplifies poor behavior.It's interesting because in real life in the workplace, etc. people very often accuse me of having no sense of humor, never smile, never make jokes etc. and sometimes ask me why.
I just show the 'ignored content' on pages like this to them as the reason (and it always gets people I show this to that this cruelty is towards real people over fictional characters). Sometimes I read it myself before a tough work meeting etc. to remind myself how cruel people are so I can be as serious and grim as possible. I wish I was joking...
If you can't unwind here and joke about fictional characters, with not a single bad thing said about real people in said joke, but then real people gang up on other posters because they don't like said jokes over... fictional characters (instead of just scrolling down and ignoring), it says a lot about the current state of the world.
I guess so. That's why I'm so grim and serious in real life most of the time I guess. It *does* get frustrating when people say, "Oh don't be so serious, life is easy-going etc." but apparently you have to meet invisible guidelines so yeah, it gets worse when gaslighting is put on top of it.
As long as I laugh it works. Sure, I might appear quite insane but that's part of my charm.
I've had a rash of run ins with other members of the BBS lately, and I'm trying to head potential arguments off at the pass. Plus I just wasn't in the mood for a big canon debate.
You'd have to do something way worse to offend me.
Doesn't work for you then it doesn't work for you. The list of Treks that actually work as entertainment for me is remarkably short. I got zero judgment for people whom it doesn't work. My questions are more around a genuine curiosity of different perspectives. Though, perhaps I come across as too dry.
Nah, it wasn't about how you were coming off at all. It more just looking at your post and not wanting to type up my rationale for each instance I believe SNW doesn't really jibe with TOS.
Sometimes you just want to stick with short comments instead of writing a whole manifesto, you know?
Ehhhhh...sometimes.Sometimes you just want to stick with short comments instead of writing a whole manifesto, you know?
I mean, if I could talk it out probably be longer. Typing sometimes feels too long. But, then, I just wrote a long opinion on Kelvin Kirk so I'm probably a terrible example.
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