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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x05 - "Charades"

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We can assume that the telepathic bond was "reset" so to speak after Spock's death, meaning that it didn't matter who he mated with. Also there must have been tons of pon farrs between TOS and TSFS, which I assume Chapel helped out with.

Yeah, you quoted me before I deleted that post. Spock's katra wasn't even in his own head at that point.
 
We can assume that the telepathic bond was "reset" so to speak after Spock's death, meaning that it didn't matter who he mated with. Also there must have been tons of pon farrs between TOS and TSFS, which I assume Chapel helped out with.
Exactly. This was a "clean slate" Spock who didn't even possess his katra at this point, McCoy did.
 
Honestly, I was expecting a lot of pushback on this episode so I'm pleasantly surprised. I loved it. Laughed a bunch.
Things I loved:
1. Spock's delusional confidence at how well he's managing.
2. The plausible reason the Kerkovians(?) altered his DNA - assuming it was the result of an injury suffered in the crash and using a healthy person to "correct" the injuries.
3. He's angry, annoyed, scared, touched, etc. AND hungry for some reason. Welcome to humanity, my friend.
4. Bacon. Spock shoveling bacon into his gob - because when you fall off the vegetarian wagon, bacon is often the trigger. (Sometimes as a former vegetarian I get a little queasy at the thought of Spock wearing leather, or eating food cooked where meat is also prepared. But bacon is glorious. Also I'm hoping it's lab grown.)
5. That conversation with La'an about human adolescence. Comedy gold. Also the way he looked when he started having sexual thoughts about her.
6. Losing it over Sam Kirk's dirty dishes.
7. That stupid hat.
8. Spock's mommy and how he defends her and comes to understand her better.
9. T'Pring's outfit!
10. Uhura and Ortegas giving Chapel the what for.
11.The disorienting beauty of the alien world in contrast with their pragmatic customer service approach to human intrustion.
12. Spock screaming into a towel.
The emotional impact of events were deep and consequential and not played for comedy despite it being a comedy. That was right.

Everything. All of this needs saying again. And more. I'm blown away.
 
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We can assume that the telepathic bond was "reset" so to speak after Spock's death, meaning that it didn't matter who he mated with. Also there must have been tons of pon farrs between TOS and TSFS, which I assume Chapel helped out with.
You are wrong.

Spock gave McCoy what ever sex link he had with is "girlfriend".

T'Pau gave the sex link back to Spock, but did she delete the sex Link from McCoy's brain?

A few years later, McCoy and Spock may have both been summoned, by mystical Vulcan forces, to the same woman, somewhere, to mate with simultaneously.
 
Chapel aside, Spock's also veering into canon breaking territory in his characterization. He's a full on human lover in the episode's ending, chewing out T'Pril for saying a human couldn't have done the ceremony. But come TOS he's saying stuff like, "Ah yes, one of your Earth emotions".
 
Chapel aside, Spock's also veering into canon breaking territory in his characterization. He's a full on human lover in the episode's ending, chewing out T'Pril for saying a human couldn't have done the ceremony. But come TOS he's saying stuff like, "Ah yes, one of your Earth emotions".
Perhaps it is time to treat it as a new timeline?

I believe that will allow the precious canon to be preserved while allowing entertainment to continue?
 
No, it's time for one of these when so-called "canon issues" are brought up:

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Chapel aside, Spock's also veering into canon breaking territory in his characterization. He's a full on human lover in the episode's ending, chewing out T'Pril for saying a human couldn't have done the ceremony. But come TOS he's saying stuff like, "Ah yes, one of your Earth emotions".

Nimoy always delivered those lines in a haughty, playful way. I never thought that TOS Spock was somehow clueless about human emotions, just that he was above them. So I don't see a big disconnect in characterization, especially since SNW Spock will obviously shift back into pure Vulcan mode at some point.
 
That's because nu-Trek has patently abandoned the idea that Vulcan has any real culture of its own, much less an alien culture with truly different rules, traditions, and even the specter of mortal combat with melee weapons in the ritual of mating.

Wrong, and misunderstanding the point of everything Sturgeon was doing in "Amok Time."

Like any other writer worth a spit, he was never telling stories about aliens - just human beings.

It's wonderful to see Trek finally commit fully to writing about its characters in contemporary terms. Genuflecting too long to outdated tropes and narrow formats has been slowly killing the property, and it seems as if everybody who's taken it on in this century has more or less recognized it but fumbled the ball to some degree or another. Not these folks.
 
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SNW Spock will obviously shift back into pure Vulcan mode at some point.
After a traumatizing breakup with Chapel, he could go all stoic again. And then when Chapel tries to hook up with him again in TOS he rejects her because he doesn't want to be hurt again! It all makes sense! :p
 
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