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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x04 - "Among the Lotus Eaters"

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More on Ortegas, the actress, not the character. Melissa Navia’s partner died of leukemia a few years ago. As someone who has lost loved ones to disease, I feel for her. She’s making the best of it so I’m trying to open up more to her character. It’s a strange thing, trying to separate a character from the person portraying them. How can you like one but not the other? I hope to see her character development improve, assuming we’re going to get some more years out of this series, there are plenty of opportunities.

We’ve got some good backstories for Una and La’an, let’s see one for Ortegas.

I'm wondering about the grey hair in her IMDB picture?

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Almost certainly dye, but for a part, or for fun?

Trekyards review: It would have been interesting if the hat Ortegas wanted to wear on the away mission was one of the helmets that make you immune to the radiation.

It wasn't?
 
Someone has to be at the helm 168 hours a week, but Ortega sleeps 8 hours a night and expects 6 hours personal time per day and maybe weekends off completely as well as 4 to 6 weeks of annual leave per year.

What exactly does she think that she means when she says "I fly the Enterprise"?

She is 1 of 20 people who can fly the Enterprise, and one of 10 people on a regular shift rotation who spend a third of a day flying the ship even if its in a straight line through deep space that requires no course corrections or power steering, just looking at the forward view screen trying not to sleep.

However...

Is she the Chief Helmswoman? A section head who writes the duty roster every week, deciding who works and who sleeps and who gets promoted and who gets demoted or transferred. Which is a clerical job behind a desk and hardly matches her personality, unless she abuses her situation to make sure that she is always on duty when Pike is, and always on duty when they meet a new planet or something equally cool, which is not fair to the other 9 people piloting the Enterprise that they never get to do anything fun.
I doubt junior officers get such big quarters. On a ship with 200 crew a full lieutenant in services (not sure why she is in red) is likely to be top of the tree. Occasionally a Lt-commander.

Might also be tasked with rotas and maintaining shuttle bay too.
 
In the story the ore and stone that make up the walls of the palace/castle protect the inhabitants from the radiation. There are Kalar in the fields who wear the helmets but still experience the memory loss and confusion.
 
For me it's my favourite episode this season so far. (Only because I think the court room one was a bit too on-the-nose).
Though I'm aware this is my TOS nostalgia showing.

TOS is and always be my childhood favourite show. And this one absolutely felt like a new, modern TOS episode, with a new cast. Right down to human looking alien civilization with a strange twist, medieval castles, and the artificiality of the AR wall reminded me of TOS planets' sets.

It's probably the best memory-loss episode of Trek ever (whatever bar that actually is) - the memory loss felt downright scary, I loved the worldbuilding/narration by the old dude, and it gave away many good insights about who these characters are at their core.

While it might be "just an episode of the week" - this is IMO what Trek is best at, and it is a joy to see Trek to return to the "concept of the week" format. And this one was truly memorable (lol) and well executed.

Loved it.
 
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No, just people who aren't in my life.

That’s not better.

also the rest of your posts contradicts this and is actually a better argument/reason not to like the character, so maybe next time just lead with that instead of talking about their haircut in a weird way
 
Trekyards review: It would have been interesting if the hat Ortegas wanted to wear on the away mission was one of the helmets that make you immune to the radiation.
I doubt junior officers get such big quarters. On a ship with 200 crew a full lieutenant in services (not sure why she is in red) is likely to be top of the tree. Occasionally a Lt-commander.

Might also be tasked with rotas and maintaining shuttle bay too.

It's "sorta" the same ship as in TOS and they squeeze in 430 crew, although Voyager found room for another 400 diseased Klingons, without a lot of problems.

I assume Erica is the Section Head/Department head, I just wasn't sure if it had been said, or if the producers are so fucking stupid that they think that Enterprise has one pilot.
 
I know at least one person whose hair went silver/grey in their early 30's. The dye job may be for working "in character" on Navia's part.

And Ortegas is described in dialogue by the ship's computer as "alpha shift pilot", so I assume she's the head-of-section, and that there's at least two, maybe three other people who crew that station when she's off-shift. I don't understand why the helm officers are wearing Ops colours here and on DSC either. Helm and Nav - later "Conn" - was Command branch on TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY...and, if memory serves, on ENT as well...?
 
Taylor Hicks from American Idol. The guy was silver-haired in his twenties.
 
TOS is and always be my childhood favourite show.

Samesies.

And this one absolutely felt like a new, modern TOS episode, with a new cast. Right down to human looking alien civilization with a strange twist, medieval castles, and the artificiality of the AR wall reminded me of TOS planets' sets.

It's probably the best memory-loss episode of Trek ever (whatever bar that actually is) - the memory loss felt downright scary, I loved the worldbuilding/narration by the old dude, and it gave away many good insights about who these characters are at their core.

While it might be "just an episode of the week" - this is IMO what Trek is best at, and it is a joy to see Trek to return to the "concept of the week" format. And this one was truly memorable (lol) and well executed.

I agree with a lot of that and felt the potential was overflowing. But it also - to me - was a collection of missed opportunities and overstuffing of ideas. I would have loved for Ortegas - as suggested above - to be on the landing party and have her headgear protect her. Allow her to be someone out of her comfort zone to rise to the challenge and aide the rest of them. She did great on the ship, but that was in her wheelhouse. I would have loved to see her in the castle, trying to convince Zac to do the right thing. And when he doesn't, then she can improvise. While that is happening, Pike, M'Benga and La'an do their thing. Above all...

Keep.
The Enterprise.
Out of it.

Every time we went there, I was more interested in the landing party and the old man (again - amazing performance). Just come up with a TOS reason for making them unable to help. Ion storms are a good catchall.

And, finally, as I said, drop the whole Rigel VII thing. If you're gonna go back there, make it an important reason. I can imagine Pike has strong feelings about it which are also tied to the experience on Talos IV since Vina was involved in the illusion. This story didn't need that tie. I'm of the mind that if you're gonna revisit a planet from the original series, give us a big reason. It's a huge galaxy....don't go back for the Adventure of the Week.

But, this is just me. They didn't do anything "wrong" I just didn't ride along with everything they DID do, A 6/10 for me, but I totally see why this is scoring higher for others. It was very "Classic Trek" in spirit. Roddenberry probably would have liked this one a lot.

The cast was amazing and Ortegas is one of my favorite characters.
 
So the three landing party members that were lost 5 tears ago two weeks before The Cage adventure and 3 before discovery had the current uniforms? I don't get it. When Pike was introduced during STD they made a big deal put of the new uniform colors. This current team needs to pay attention.

Time Traveling Romulan. (Altered timeline) ;)
 
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The ringing even bothered dogs that were in the room. They should update the episode and turn those down and make them shorter, like they updated a few PIC eps cause the colors were off.
If you ever watch TOS I recommend skipping S2s The Immunity Syndrome. ;)
 
Gary and Kelso wore the "services" color in WNMHGB"
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As do Detmer and Owo in DISCO

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So? Continuity?
Ah yeah I was forgetting the more subtle difference in colour in WNMHGB. Plus Sulu in TWOK. It makes no logical sense but there you go. I suppose the continuity is that there hasn't been much continuity, like comms yoyos between services, command, science, operations, and security.
 
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Spock wears a Ship's Services or Command tunic in the second pilot episode when he's clearly manning the Science station on the bridge so all we can deduce from all this is that Starfleet is very, very prone to just changing things at the drop of a hat because reasons. Of course if he's already First Officer under Kirk from the start of the latter's command then that would explain the shirt color right there.
 
7 - entertaining episode that is in line with decades of typical Trek shows. I have to say, I was kind of annoyed that Ortegas was not taken on the away mission! cool to see Broadway vet Reed Birney in a guest roll.
 
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