You don't have to look further than "The Cage": the reenactment of Pike vs. the Kalar on Rigel VII.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x01 - "The Broken Circle"
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More M'Benga for his buck...
Or the on-screen dialog where Pike talks about the 'real' encounter 2 weeks earlier:
"Two dead, including my own Yeoman, and 7 injured..."
And a male Yeoman at that, precipitating his unfortunate reaction to Colt when she brings him the report on the bridge. He's in a very weird and emotionally compromised place after the Rigel VII landing party disaster.
Well I guess that proves me wrong. lol
For the purpose of creating an interesting episode perhaps. I still stand by my point.
You never had a point.
Yes, it does.
A quantum level of wrong it would take Starfleet science in order to grasp.
Ummmm how many people died in the Klingon war? I'm pretty sure it was 10,000 or 50,000 or something along those lines in Discovery but this episode gave a crazy high number.
Depends on who's counting. War dead counts for many major conflicts vary.
It was ten thousand, but that number was given 9 months before the war ended.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Federation-Klingon_War_(2256-57)#cite_note-1
Timothy Peel posted a video of the planetary graphic of Cajitar IV
https://twitter.com/timothypeel1/status/1670477777294835713
Is she? Because she came across as a character we've only met and know nothing about...yet. We know her species, her occupational history and even that she was friends with Amanda. That's actually a lot for the short time she was on screen. We now know more about her than about Miles O'Brien in Season 4 of TNG
8/10
It was an entertaining hour. Pelia was fun, if a bit odd. I pride myself on having a pretty good Trek memory but figured I must have forgotten the Lanthanite race from ENT somehow. I, of course, had to go research them after the episode and was happy to find they are a new creation.
The episode definitely felt like a retcon or reboot of sorts for certain things. The fan in me that enjoys TPTB adhering to canon mostly is forced to accept that this particular prequel just isn't going to jive with established lore. Maybe it never really could. A couple things that struck me as being off in no particular order: Spock being very emotional, and everyone just kind of being ok with an emotionally unstable Vulcan. His quite head over heels romantic feelings for Chapel. A lieutenant blatantly violates a direct order from an Admiral and his punishment was a blood wine hangover? Starfleet sure is sanguine about the theft of their Enterprise's. The M'Benga Chapel augmented fight was unexpected, seeing as how neither one were shown as having much combat experience previously. That was not a Crossfield class starship unless they say it's a refit in the future.
I enjoyed the return of more "normal" Klingons. The visuals were nice. Spock's "warp me" command was appropriate.
It was an entertaining hour. Pelia was fun, if a bit odd. I pride myself on having a pretty good Trek memory but figured I must have forgotten the Lanthanite race from ENT somehow. I, of course, had to go research them after the episode and was happy to find they are a new creation.
The episode definitely felt like a retcon or reboot of sorts for certain things. The fan in me that enjoys TPTB adhering to canon mostly is forced to accept that this particular prequel just isn't going to jive with established lore. Maybe it never really could. A couple things that struck me as being off in no particular order: Spock being very emotional, and everyone just kind of being ok with an emotionally unstable Vulcan. His quite head over heels romantic feelings for Chapel. A lieutenant blatantly violates a direct order from an Admiral and his punishment was a blood wine hangover? Starfleet sure is sanguine about the theft of their Enterprise's. The M'Benga Chapel augmented fight was unexpected, seeing as how neither one were shown as having much combat experience previously. That was not a Crossfield class starship unless they say it's a refit in the future.
I enjoyed the return of more "normal" Klingons. The visuals were nice. Spock's "warp me" command was appropriate.
I’m still quite staggered by Carol Kane’s performance. I like her and am happy to have her on the show, but…what was that? And we thought Amanda Plumber was a bit wacky in PIC…
Also still can’t believe the bizarre M’Benga/Chapel fight scene. I was gawking at the screen not quite believing what I was seeing. How come this drug isn’t used in future Trek? Seems mighty handy if you even a slight-framed nurse can take down Klingons with impunity.
Silliness aside, it was entertaining enough fluff. Although I hate to be one of the canon warriors but this does contradict TOS in that “The Galileo Seven” was meant to be Spock’s first time in command. Also not enthused at the prospect of some Spock/Chapel relationship. The more I think about it, the weaker it seems (and I really missed Pike and Una) so I’ll just chalk it up to a passing grade. It’s nice to have Trek back.
Also still can’t believe the bizarre M’Benga/Chapel fight scene. I was gawking at the screen not quite believing what I was seeing. How come this drug isn’t used in future Trek? Seems mighty handy if you even a slight-framed nurse can take down Klingons with impunity.
Silliness aside, it was entertaining enough fluff. Although I hate to be one of the canon warriors but this does contradict TOS in that “The Galileo Seven” was meant to be Spock’s first time in command. Also not enthused at the prospect of some Spock/Chapel relationship. The more I think about it, the weaker it seems (and I really missed Pike and Una) so I’ll just chalk it up to a passing grade. It’s nice to have Trek back.
Chapel doing some Aikido or something is fine with me. However, on several occasions in the fights she is punched in the face by Klingon males. Her facial bones would be shattered and her skull fracture by this. This is just a "tough girl" trope that I hate.
That's fine. Clearly opinions will vary. I guess I have somewhat more negative view. Inject yourself with this magic juice to get out of a tough situation. I still enjoyed the story. Overall, it was an intriguing setup. I think making M'Benga and Chapel combat medics has a lot of potential. It's not a side we usually see, but it must exist given the history in-universe.
Humble opinion is that there will be no "relationship" as in, commited long term thing. However, Chapel running to Korby to escape her growing feelings for Spock makes sense to me. You have to set up those feelings first to make it work. I like this retcon of Chapel and Spock as it was clear to me in TOS that Spock harbored feelings for her, and some kind of anguish and guilt. Chapel may be that catalyst the turns Spock from the more approachable and likable guy in SNW to the more forbidding Vulcan in TOS.
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