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Spoilers The Flash (2023) -Review and Discussion Thread

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The only TV cameos are from the George Reeves and Adam West series, with the rest all being from movies (including the unmade Nicolas Cage Superman movie). Evidently the filmmakers weren't interested in engaging with the modern TV side of DC, which is not unusual for the feature film industry (note how the theatrical MCU never acknowledged Agents of SHIELD or the Netflix Marvel shows).

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The only TV cameos are from the George Reeves and Adam West series, with the rest all being from movies (including the unmade Nicolas Cage Superman movie). Evidently the filmmakers weren't interested in engaging with the modern TV side of DC, which is not unusual for the feature film industry (note how the theatrical MCU never acknowledged Agents of SHIELD or the Netflix Marvel shows).
I know that the movie industry looks down of TV. Like it’s beneath them or something. It’s just that they insisted that Ezra appear in Crisis. I just thought it would make sense to do vice Versa, considering he got the name “the Flash” from Grant. He never had a superhero name in Justice League.
If it was just movie characters, I would have preferred Routh, Bale or the Twilight guy. It would have been more impactful if it was them and not just poor cgi versions of them.
 
No Blue Beetle?

This would have been a perfect opportunity for synergy.

I was wrong, but I thought that George Lopez was going to be Ted Kord.
 
No Blue Beetle?

This would have been a perfect opportunity for synergy.

I was wrong, but I thought that George Lopez was going to be Ted Kord.
I keep forgetting about that movie. You’d think they would advertise that before the Flash. Instead I got the trailer for it on Transformers
 
(note how the theatrical MCU never acknowledged Agents of SHIELD or the Netflix Marvel shows).
But did notably retain James Darcy's Jarvis from Agent Carter prior to the current approach of slowly reintegrating certain Netflix content into the MCU like Daredevil.
 
But did notably retain James Darcy's Jarvis from Agent Carter prior to the current approach of slowly reintegrating certain Netflix content into the MCU like Daredevil.

The Disney + Shows are only getting the integration love they are getting because COVID closed the cinemas down for 2 years.
 
I don’t think he had anything to do with that. Plus that was never said to be part of the MCU.
 
I keep forgetting about that movie. You’d think they would advertise that before the Flash. Instead I got the trailer for it on Transformers

We did with ours (and that's the first time I'd seen the Blue Beetle trailer). The other was the Mission Impossible trailer and one I'm currently drawing a complete blank on (though I know it wasn't TF).
 
Oppenheimer?

That's the one. I was hoping for an Indiana Jones one, though the closest we got was the Explorer car advert instead.

The cinema we go to now seems to have trimmed down on the adverts (like one - and usually semi movie related) and on trailers (from five to three trailers).

For The Flash, they also seem to have put it on in a smaller screen (Six showings per day) and there were four people in our showing (lunch time Saturday) - three of which were our party.

I suspect our old cinema would have been busier, but the prices there are now double, and they've gone and made the car parking non-subsidized so for (upto) four hours, you're talking four times more on that.

As for the film itself, I generally enjoyed it
 
I wasn’t that impressed with Supergirl. I just didn’t think there was much to her. She was simply there for a plot device.
I don’t know what I was expecting but I was expecting something more with her.

Going in, I knew the character was drafted into service without much backstory of development (other than the conversation with Zod), but her potential was there. Somewhere along the course of the film's production, the idea of a solo Supergirl film was a thing, so its likely her brief scenes in The Flash were considered acceptable, since she would have a fleshed out narrative in a proposed solo movie. As it stands, the DCEU Supergirl's short life served the story, despite Calle's performance hinting at what we might have viewed in a solo movie.

Calle has expressed an interest in landing the lead in Gunn's Supergirl film, but her serious, mission-oriented DCEU portrayal is not how the Gunn version will be written, at least from the rumor mill regarding that project.
 
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They also hinted a possible romance between her and younger Barry as well if she was to continue.
 
I wouldn't necessarily call Reeves and West "TV cameos", as each of them did have theatrically released movies.

They had, respectively, six and three television seasons and one movie each, and in both cases the movie was conceived as a pilot for the TV series (although ABC insisted on debuting Batman before the movie rather than after as originally intended). They're primarily TV characters, while the other cameos are exclusively film characters.


It’s just that they insisted that Ezra appear in Crisis.

And there have been two or three changes in the executive regime since then. No surprise that that plan went out the window along with everything else that got changed along the way.


But did notably retain James Darcy's Jarvis from Agent Carter prior to the current approach of slowly reintegrating certain Netflix content into the MCU like Daredevil.

One: That was because Agent Carter was created and produced by the writers of the Captain America and Avengers movies and had a more direct connection to the movie side than the rest of the TV MCU.

Two (and this also addresses the first quoted comment): Pointing out a single exception does not disprove the overall pattern being cited. Just because a desert gets rain a few days per year doesn't mean it isn't a desert.
 
They also hinted a possible romance between her and younger Barry as well if she was to continue.

Younger Barry had the horn for Supergirl, a perfect physical specimen. Boo hoo. You're the genius, attracted to the most attractive woman in the world. Don't you deserve a gold star!

Older Barry saw a concentration camp wrecked victim, took pity on her, and rescued Kara Zor-El from continued torture and death. Girls really relate to that sort of shit. Supergirl is into Old Barry, even if young Barry spent 60 years in a time ball trying to stop her inevitable death, because that happened later, and not really how time works here, it's never exactly the same Kara twice every time he turned back time to save her.

Old Barry is into Iris.

Although... Did you see Patty?
 
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Calle has expressed an interest in landing the lead in Gunn's Supergirl film, but her serious, mission-oriented DCEU portrayal is not how the Gunn version will mirror, at least from the rumor mill regarding that project.
I haven't heard any rumors about the planned Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow film beyond the fact of its existence, but a "serious, mission-oriented" Kara would suit a faithful adaptation of the (superb) graphic novel perfectly.

Not that I have any expectation Gunn will actually consider Calle for the role (though he should). If he were going to do that, it would make even less sense than it already does for him to have torpedoed her return at the conclusion of The Flash.
They also hinted a possible romance between her and younger Barry as well if she was to continue.
I didn't see that, and I usually have an eagle eye for those sorts of things. Did I blink and miss something?
 
I know that the movie industry looks down of TV. Like it’s beneath them or something. It’s just that they insisted that Ezra appear in Crisis. I just thought it would make sense to do vice Versa, considering he got the name “the Flash” from Grant. He never had a superhero name in Justice League.

They even shot that scene with different cameras and lighting so it could be dropped into the movie without looking out of place.
 
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