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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x01 - "The Broken Circle"

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Don't know if it's been mentioned here, but I found it interesting that Pike and Una put a lot of emphasis on the SHE they were trying to get represent Una's case. Certainly seems like it's going to someone familiar (actor or character). I'm putting my money on a certain pointy eared first officer coming out of retirement
 
Spocks current emotional troubles could be the writer's way of trying to explain his emotionalism in The Cage. We all know the behind the scenes reason for it and I don't mind a cannon reason being created for it. I actually liked the scene where Spock gets introduced to the musical instrument we would see him playing throughout TOS.
 
DeadmeatDiggory said:
Don't know if it's been mentioned here, but I found it interesting that Pike and Una put a lot of emphasis on the SHE they were trying to get represent Una's case. Certainly seems like it's going to someone familiar (actor or character). I'm putting my money on a certain pointy eared first officer coming out of retirement
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That would be a legacy character that I wouldn't mind seeing. It would be a much better send off for the character than she got for the Enterprise finale.
 
Didn’t Pelia say she first revealed who she was to a Vulcan on Earth? I could see that being our favorite catsuit wearing Vulcan not Una’s lawyer.

and why is the “go to warp” phrase all of a sudden a big deal in nu-Trek. First Saru and Tilly workshopping something. Then Freeman and some ensign doing the same thing. Then hiding what Seven says, now this little exchange with Spock. It’s a weird thing to make a big deal of.
 
DeadmeatDiggory said:
Don't know if it's been mentioned here, but I found it interesting that Pike and Una put a lot of emphasis on the SHE they were trying to get represent Una's case. Certainly seems like it's going to someone familiar (actor or character). I'm putting my money on a certain pointy eared first officer coming out of retirement
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The ready room preview for next week's episode reveals who the person they were trying to get to represent Una is.
 
DeadmeatDiggory said:
Don't know if it's been mentioned here, but I found it interesting that Pike and Una put a lot of emphasis on the SHE they were trying to get represent Una's case. Certainly seems like it's going to someone familiar (actor or character). I'm putting my money on a certain pointy eared first officer coming out of retirement
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I will personally start a cult for Myers and Goldsman if they manage to get Jolene Blalock to reprise her role as T'Pol.
 
Eddie Roth said:
Having said that, I still can't get over the fact that they reintroduce all these TOS characters - clearly intended as fanservice - but then don't actually service the fans by keeping them consistent with what we know. Much as I like Jess Bush's performance itself, her Chapel is still the worst offender in this category. Who is this person and why is she the namesake of Majel Barrett's character?Perhaps there's some sort of endgame here, so I'll reserve final judgment, but as of now, I can't see why they wouldn't just create new characters that can then do whatever the eff they want them to do. But I know, the continuity issue is tired and there's no common ground to be found in debates on that.
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I honestly don't give one whit whether the characterization of any of the folks we see in TOS are consistent with that portrayal. The series is now close to 60 years old; I expect a more modern spin on the characters. I do want the characters to be consistent within the show though, which is why this episode was in part a failure for me. The whole M'Benga/Chapel fight sequence with the Klingons was not only nonsensical, it was in no way rooted in what has been established regarding their characters.
 
ichab said:
Spocks current emotional troubles could be the writer's way of trying to explain his emotionalism in The Cage. We all know the behind the scenes reason for it and I don't mind a cannon reason being created for it. I actually liked the scene where Spock gets introduced to the musical instrument we would see him playing throughout TOS.
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We know from the movies that Vulcans have a emotional reset ritual. So it's easily explained that Spock is emotional now but gets it under control between The Cage and TOS
 
I don’t have much to add that others haven’t already said at this point.

Good Stuff:
1. M’Benga and Chapel are great characters, so I liked learning a little more about them and seeing them get some screen time.
2. The visual effects and planet background was really cool
3. Fun story that generally kept me engaged
4. Ethan Peck brings great subtlety and physical acting to Spock.
5. The new Chief Engineer character seems cool.

Meh Stuff:
1. I found myself saying "what the fuck am I watching right now" during the scene where M'Benga and Chapel beat up 46 Klingons while hopped up on random superdrugs in strobe-lit corridors.
2. "Stealing the Enterprise" No bro, c'mon.
3. Marion Ravenwood "I can outdrink you" contest.
4. Nonsensical conspiracy plot that "Star Trek Into Darkness" would be proud of
5. Why is it so important that Spock have a love interest? I love Chapel. I love Spock. I don't see their "relationship" as plausible right now.

6.6/10 (round up to a 7 on the poll)
 
Omegaphallic said:
Klingons, Vulcans, and maybe Jem'hadar all have at least 10 times the strength of a human, one hit from these species would usually kill someone unless that person got insanely lucky, or the Klingon held his punch or kick.
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Where have Klingon been established as "ten times?" In TOS they are shown as equal. In DS9 Kira goes toe to toe.
 
Something I really liked is the foundation here for what we see bubble up to the surface again in The Undiscovered Country with the rogue elements working to keep tension or all out war going between the sides. Kind of shows that even though you'd think the movement was stopped in this episode, it would be shown to have never really went away.
 
Paul755 said:
...and why is the “go to warp” phrase all of a sudden a big deal in nu-Trek. First Saru and Tilly workshopping something. Then Freeman and some ensign doing the same thing. Then hiding what Seven says, now this little exchange with Spock. It’s a weird thing to make a big deal of.
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Right? I don't get it either. It may be something for US to make a big deal over (it isn't) but "in universe?" How many different ways can there be too say it?
 
Noname Given said:
And don't forget the crew that mutinied to prevent Captain Garth (Kirk's hero) from destrying a Planet (which ended with his court martial and imprisonment in a Federation insane asylum.

Oh and speaking of Starship Captain court martials; in TOS S1 Court Martial, Commodore Stone explicitly states to Kirk:
"No Starship Captain has ever stood trial before, and I don't want you to be the first..."
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Guess he blocked out Captain Garth's trial, eh? ;)
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It's possible Garth was thrown out of Starfleet for what he did THEN court-martialed.
Kirk may have been the first ACTIVE Starship Captain to stand trial.

Timelord Victorious said:
Typically Worf is named as an example of way above typical human strength.
And Klingons themselves like to boast about their physical superiority.
But I dismiss Klingon boasting.
Worf is the type of person who is keeping himself in peak condition at all times.
It would be out of character for him to let himself go.
If they made TNG today, he would have probably been cast by someone with Thor‘s physique.
He would be very intimidating even to other Klingons. Actors being build like that seem to be very rare in the 80s or 90s.

The majority of Klingons we see look very average and sometimes even scrawny. Most of the bulk comes from the armor.
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The Klingons have built up a few falsehoods about themselves:
1. That they are 10x stronger than humans. Humans have fought them hand-to-hand many times and either won or they lost like they would to any other stronger human. And Worf has been tossed around like a salad many times.
2. That they are honorable. They are not.
 
It may be important to point out that M'Benga & Chapel weren't just fighting Klingons, there were quite a few humans involved in that skirmish.

It's just easier on first watching, to see the Klingon facial attributes in all the commotion and low lighting.

Also, it seemed to me that most of the humans the two of them pounded on, didn't come back for seconds.
While several of the Klingons didn't want to go down.
 
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