Spoilers Canon, Continuity, and Pike's Accident

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by CorporalCaptain, May 19, 2023.

  1. Paul755

    Paul755 Commodore Commodore

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    what’s interesting to me is the idea that they are kinda disregarding WNMHGB in part because Spock, Sulu and Scotty are wearing a different uniform and Uhura/Bones aren’t there.
     
  2. fireproof78

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    I mean, they can always fix it.
     
  3. Tallguy

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    He wasn't disregarding it at all. He just noted that Nimoy's portrayal of Spock was still evolving.

    I had just put forward in another thread that The Corbomite Maneuver was kind of a third pilot even before I read that article.
     
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  4. DEWLine

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    I don't believe that you aren't wrong about "The Corbomite Maneuver". It does have the feel of a pilot episode in its own right, and I think it may be the first episode I remember actively paying attention to as a child.
     
  5. TerryTrek

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    I loved Nimoy's Spock in S1.

    When Bill joined the cast and played this extroverted, energetic character.... it allowed Nimoy to play Spock as cold and dispassionate.

    You could see the dynamic beginning as early as the 'Kill Mitchell while you still can' discussion in WNMHGB.

    The contrast between the three of them in that Ego/Superego/ID dynamic is one of the reasons the TOS trinity is so iconic and holds up strong even today.
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    Couldn't stand that episode.
     
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  7. Tallguy

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    Possibly the most controversial opinion so far. Kudos.
     
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  8. fireproof78

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    Just the Bailey character brings it down for me. Though I watched it originally out of order so it b was than impressive with following Balance of Terror.
     
  9. Serveaux

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    "The Corbomite Manuever" is one of the best Trek episodes, it's science fiction and it holds up now better than episodes that were made fifty years later because the drama is simple and direct. One of Shatner's better performances, too.
     
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  10. Noname Given

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    Different Strokes for different folks. I've said it many times but for me The Corbomite Maneuver is the best episode of the franchise across all of the various Star Trek series in the past 59 years.

    It really encapsulates everything that Star Trek is about in one 55 minute episode.
     
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  11. fireproof78

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    Oh, it's well crafted, very SF at its heart, and reflective of Trek as a whole.

    It also has an annoying character so I don't feel the need to revisit it.
     
  12. Nerys Myk

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    It's one I point to as an example of what Star Trek is.
     
  13. Serveaux

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    Exactly so.
     
  14. Ovation

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    Corbomite is in the top five of all Trek episodes, though it’s only third on my list of favourites and neither of my top two favourites would make my list of top five overall in quality (Where No Man…remains my favourite and I have a soft spot for A Quality of Mercy from SNW). But certainly as an exemplar of Trek, across all iterations, Corbomite is hard to beat.
     
  15. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    TOS season 1 was so fucking good.
     
  16. comsol

    comsol That Guy Premium Member

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    It's amazing to see just how well they did right off the bat. TOS season 1 is still the best of Trek to me, no matter how much I like the rest of the shows.
     
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  17. Serveaux

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    Yep. The only other Trek show that comes close in its first year is, well, SNW.;)
     
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  18. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Eh. I admit the first season of Orville was pretty good.
     
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  19. Paul755

    Paul755 Commodore Commodore

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    you misspelled Lower Decks :D
     
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  20. Serveaux

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    Meh.
     
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