Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?
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I think the spin-off will happen, but not for a few years.
Maybe not. For Star Trek Beyond, it was more cost-effective to rebuild the Enterprise sets from scratch in Canada than to ship the existing ones up from LA.
Of course, they also said that for the -D bridge, at least, they collated all their construction and reference material, down to paint and carpet samples, so it would be much easier to rebuild it from scratch if that ever became necessary again. I'd hope that was SOP for the newer shows with all production assets, knowing as they do that Star Trek isn't going anywhere, and it's entirely possible that at some point in the distant future you might want to have a more-or-less exact duplicate of a 55-year-old set, costume, model, or prop.
Coastal transport by shipping containers is much lower cost than rail/truck to the interior. We see this in Canada with oil. Canada is a net exporter of oil, but Quebec and the Atlantic provinces get the bulk of their oil from imports. Why? Because there is not enough pipeline capacity to send oil from Alberta to the east (there are pipelines south and west facing). Leaving aside any environmental concerns about oil, its physical bulk makes it expensive to ship east without proper pipeline capacity. We do have shipments that supplement our supplies in Eastern Canada, but we still import oil because shipping by water is cheaper. Same with any heavy physical objects.
You're very right about storage costs, and I don't doubt that the process would be expensive. I suppose the question is whether the cost of building custom sets wholeclothe is higher than moving them -- the cost/benefit analysis of buying vs. moving normal household objects after all is not going to be the same for custom genre set pieces like this. It's not like they make LCARS sets in bulk.
Well if that's the case, then that does mean that whatever cost savings storage might provide would be negated yeah.
Good insight. And I can't imagine the cost of transport hasn't gone up since then. Not definitive but a strong indicator that shipping might not be cheaper.
Vancouver does have a decent local film/TV industry infrastructure. The biggest problem with shooting there is that Legacy wouldn't be able to use the big StageCraft virtual set technology that Discovery and Strange New Worlds share in Toronto.
True. But the US dollar is typically worth between 1.25/1.40$ CDN dollars (one significant reason for working in Canada in the first place), so that could also be an offset.
That was to the Vancouver area nearly a decade ago. The fact it would be to Toronto now only exacerbates the cost.
I feel very confident that, for that fact alone, any "sequel" would be in Toronto.
While Matalas doesn't confirm Star Trek: Legacy is a go, he does confirm that Paramount does have a plan for Jack Crusher’s character moving forward.
From Entertainment Weekly:
From Entertainment Weekly:
There might be another Star Trek series coming our way — or at the very least, another home for Ed Speleers' Jack Crusher. Showrunner Terry Matalas confirms in an interview with EW, "Jack's got a lot to do, let me tell you."
He wouldn't tell us exactly what, of course, but the producer — who has guided the Patrick Stewart-led spin-off to break into the Nielsen Top 10 ratings for the first time with season 3 — confirms his story isn't over ... Matalas won't disclose what the plans are for Speleers as Jack moving forward, only that he knows what they are. "Oh yes. I do [know]," he says. "Oh yes."
I've always thought Jeri Ryan was a good actress and the 7 of 9 character was really well developed, but I'm not sure I can see her leading a series. In terms of storytelling it would be nice to see Seven come full circle and emulate her mentor by becoming an established captain. ST Picard only really materialised because of Patrick Stewart's star power and the allure of the TNG crew. I don't see Ryan having the same pull factor to have an entire series based on her character. And personally, I'm not a fan of Raffi or Jack so if those two are going to be the main sidekicks, I'd rather the series not happen at all.
All that aside, I don't see Kurtzman giving into fan demand again by approving another spin-off. SNW at least had established characters in Trek lore to base a series on, so having a Pike and co series made sense.
All that aside, I don't see Kurtzman giving into fan demand again by approving another spin-off. SNW at least had established characters in Trek lore to base a series on, so having a Pike and co series made sense.
Considering Paramount allowed a post credits scene teasing a continuation...I'd say it's more likely than not.
But streamers ARE getting more restrictive on costs so, who knows.
But streamers ARE getting more restrictive on costs so, who knows.
Toronto is 2,500 miles from LA. It's also nowhere near the west coast.
*edit* Nevermind. I see it has been well and thoroughly discussed.
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I know the actor that played Jack said he would love to be in Star Trek for years.
I wonder if he signed a MCU contract that he will be around in one form or another. Hopefully, Legacy.
Seven, Raffi, Jack, and Sidney LaForge would be a very nice foursome to start a series. They would have to create other interesting characters too. I thought Burton's real life daughter wasn't the best actress so she can come or not. Riker's daughter? You would need a chief engineer. A security chief. A doctor. Maybe the next Dax? More legacy characters kids. Molly O'Brien? Bashir and Ezri's kids? Tuvok's kids? Paris and Torres' kids?
I wonder if he signed a MCU contract that he will be around in one form or another. Hopefully, Legacy.
Seven, Raffi, Jack, and Sidney LaForge would be a very nice foursome to start a series. They would have to create other interesting characters too. I thought Burton's real life daughter wasn't the best actress so she can come or not. Riker's daughter? You would need a chief engineer. A security chief. A doctor. Maybe the next Dax? More legacy characters kids. Molly O'Brien? Bashir and Ezri's kids? Tuvok's kids? Paris and Torres' kids?
I added in a subsequent post that I was mistaking the filming location as being Vancouver, where Beyond was filmed, not Toronto.
Yeah, that was a "my bad". I see it's been well discussed.
One thing to consider is that CBS owns the studio in Mississauga, where Strange New Worlds is filmed. It was built and opened in 2019, so it's brand new.
Discovery, on the other hand, was filmed in rented studio space at Pinewood, in Toronto.
One can imagine, with Discovery ending, CBS will take this opportunity to put congregate all Trek production under one roof. A roof they own.
I bring all this up to simply ask this one question; does CBS have room to film yet another show?
With SNW, Starfleet Academy, and the Section 31 film all being made, they may simply not have room for another series and they may not want to continue to rent space at Pinewood.
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