Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by ELCHawk, Apr 23, 2023.

  1. Paul755

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    I didn’t think that there would be a Seven/Titan show since it was floated before this season began. I still don’t.

    but could I see a tv movie similar to Section 31? Sure.
     
  2. F. King Daniel

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    Enough of these prequels. The true present is the 32nd century, and Starfleet Academy.
     
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  3. Racefuel

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    Not everyone wants that.

    Trek is a big tent
     
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    This could very well be for the best, as much as it disenfranchises me of the Star Trek franchise.
     
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  5. Citiprime

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    What Matalas's is saying about it has shifted a little over the last week. About a week ago, he said there was nothing under discussion to now implying there's "conversations."

    From CinemaBlend:

    MATALAS: "You know, there’s conversations happening all the time. I think Alex [Kurtzman] has a plan for the Star Trek universe and I think he has to figure out how all these things play out, right? I don’t think he wants to rush into anything. He’s got two great [live-action] shows happening right now, Strange New Worlds and Starfleet Academy, and the Section 31 movie. So, you know, they’re pretty well stocked. At the same time, I think there’s a demand for this. I would say the fans should be loud and tell the world what they want. And maybe one day we’ll be able to do it…The fans are heard, but they should keep doing their thing."​
     
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  6. Pubert

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    I would say it's pretty much a sure thing.it will be a Seven series. No doubt about that.
     
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  7. Racefuel

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    I think the "conversations" are a little more advanced given the way Gates McFadden and Jon Frakes are acting.

    But we'll see.
     
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  8. Sci

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    Star Trek doesn't have any one "true present" anymore.

    Maybe it did back when Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and the Next Generation films were all being produced and set at the same time, between 1993 and 2001.

    But it didn't have any one "true present" from 1987 to 1993, when Next Generation and the Original Series films were both in production. It didn't have a "true present" from 2001 to 2005, when both Enterprise and Nemesis were produced. And it doesn't have any one "true present" today.

    2256-2258 is the true present on seasons one and two of Discovery. 2259 is the true present on Strange New Worlds. 2380-2381 is the true present on Lower Decks. 2383-2384 is the true present on Prodigy. 2399-2401 is the true present on Picard. And 3188-3190 is the true present on seasons three and four of Discovery.

    It's all equally the true present.
     
  9. Skywalker

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    Season 3 of Picard has gotten the most people talking about Trek since the first Abrams movie, and while it wasn't perfect, the overall reaction seems to be pretty positive. I think as long as the potential core cast (Ryan, Speleers, Chestnut, plus whoever else) are willing to relocate to Toronto, where it will be much cheaper to film than it is in LA, I think it's possible.

    Did they save any of the leftover Picard sets? I'm assuming not.
     
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  10. Racefuel

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    "True present" ended with Nemsis, so 2379. After that we had the Kelvin films and then Discovery.

    The trend of "true present" began breaking down with Enterprise also.
     
  11. Racefuel

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    Per Terry Matalas the Titanoprise and Enterprise-D bridge were disassemled and preserved in storage.
     
  12. Citiprime

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    There's a couple things that make me think that if Paramount was opposed to a "Legacy" series, some of the things that happened wouldn't have happened.

    I don't think the Q-Jack scene gets included. Also, while Paramount hasn't confirmed a "Legacy" series, they've also done nothing to tamp down speculation about it. I think if they didn't want fan disappointment about it, they would have either reined in some of Matalas's comments, or leaked a story saying a "Legacy" series was unlikely.

    I think everything seems to indicate that either Paramount is leaning in the direction of doing it, or at the very least keeping their options open for it. My concern on a production level would be that if they don't commit to it soon, they run the risk of Matalas moving on to another project and some of the actors not being available and moving on to other things as well.
     
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  13. Racefuel

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    Yeah we'll see. I suspect Discovery being discontinued is a sign they were the sacrificial element to allow future Trek series to continue (IE SFA, maybe "Legacy" or whatever it is)
     
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  14. Ovation

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    Having to move them to Toronto from LA would largely negate any such advantages.

    AKA---the future. ;)
     
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  15. Sci

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    Has anyone actually run those numbers?
     
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  16. Racefuel

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    I think you overestimate the cost of shipping the sets and severely underestimate the cost of the materials, time and effort to build them.

    Moving a bunch of shipping containers from LA up the US west coast into Canada is nothing
     
  17. Racefuel

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    I suspect it is a Colorectal Acquired Calculation Statement
     
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  18. Sci

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    I mean, it could hypothetically be a meaningful cost yet also be less than constructing new sets wholeclothe.

    Also, the Star Trek studios are in Toronto, not Vancouver, so you're not just shipping them north, you're also shipping them thousands of miles east.
     
  19. Ovation

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    I'm sure someone has, though I do not have access them.

    Moving sets, in general, is frequently considered expensive, especially over a great distance. If it was from LA to San Diego, I'm sure it would be different. Having paid to move across short and long distances, I have sold/left behind things for long moves because it was cheaper to re-buy them at the other end. I cannot imagine it is any different for such large objects. And there is the cost of moving across an international border to consider. Additionally, storage costs need consideration as the "sequel" has not been greenlit.
     
  20. Citiprime

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    Don't know if it's true, but I've read in other places that the Titan/Enterprise-G sets were destroyed at the end of production. Only the Enterprise-D set was put in storage.

    Also, I'm not entirely sure, but it might be one of those things where it would be cheaper to rebuild it in Canada than to move everything there and reassemble it.

    Plus, I would guess that if "Legacy" happens there will be some modifications to the sets and the ship.