Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"

[Cortez]

As Huey Lewis has said, the power of love is a curious thing!

It's awful. How long has he known the chap? Put yourself in Picard's place for one moment and don't forget that Picard is a bright boy. (That's not me suggesting that you aren't but you know what I'm trying to say)

 

[Nerys Myk]

. A hug killed the Borg. I mean, come on.

I don't want to hear any more complaints about crying Kelpians, now.

 

[fireproof78]

Eh. Tax evasion took down Al Capone. The Borg spent centuries spreading pain, destruction and loss just to enhance themselves. If one human's love for his child finally delivered the death blow to the Collective then I'm cool with that.

That joke in Zootopia makes more sense now. Thank you.

 

[cooleddie74]

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[Scionz]

It's Soongs, all the way down.


As much as people bitch about season 3 of Picard being nostalgia bait, they would've hated the original first act of Generations even more. It was a thinly-veiled excuse to get the original seven back in bridge station seats for one last action sequence, incapacitating each Enterprise-B bridge officer one-by-one. It was stunningly shoddy writing.

Honestly it was a massive, massive missed opportunity to not do a complete "two crews" adventure with both entire cases. Reducing it to a Picard / Kirk thing seems like a fundamental mistake to make with the story. Which is very strange in retrospect. The Berman era was pioneering in shared universe stuff. Really. It was doing MCU show/movie integration 15 years years before the MCU gathered pace (and Generations was 18 years before Avengers). But it was very rigid about certain types of crossovers:

-Mentioning the Dominion War inn too much detail on Voyager, especially as it related to the Maquis.
-The absolute refusal to show the Sovereign class (any Sovereign clas) on DS9.
-The aversion to TOS references for much for TNG

The one known instance when they tried is to get the TNG crew for Worf's wedding, but they couldn't schedule it and could only arrange for some of the actors who had offices on the paramount lot at the time.

 

[Cortez]

I suspect the Enterprise blowing up the transmission beacon and destroying the cube had something to do with the Borg being destroyed.

At the same time that Picard hugged his son who didn't want anything to do with him for the entire season. At the same time where he was invited into the Borg queen room and allowed to f$ck about with Jack's connection leads while she laughed. At the same time that the Titan took on basically the entire fleet. At the same time that we're suddenly supposed to accept that the Borg are weak. Don't seem weak to me. It's so stupid.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't want to hear any more complaints about crying Kelpians, now.

Remember when newer Trek was said to have too much violence and that wasn't Trek?

 

[XCV330]

Jean Luc gave Jack the courage to unplug his USB jack. The Borg Queen finally realized the folly of not going wireless.

 

[Racefuel]

At the same time that Picard hugged his son who didn't want anything to do with him for the entire season. At the same time where he was invited into the Borg queen room and allowed to f$ck about with Jack's connection leads while she laughed. At the same time that the Titan took on basically the entire fleet. At the same time that we're suddenly supposed to accept that the Borg are weak. Don't seem weak to me. It's so stupid.

The Titan was beaten, they didn’t take out any fleet. The Starbase is what took out the fleet, the Titan was just running around as a distraction. After spacedock was disabled the Titan got whacked pretty hard and its cloak was disabled. It was toast

Again, that should have been obvious.

 

[Cortez]

Picard going into the collective was about saving Jack.

The Enterprise destroying the beacon and setting off the collapse and explosion of the cube is what took out the Borg.

That should have been obvious to anyone watching the episode

What was obvious to me that it was rushed and entirely convoluted. You just accept whatever you see on screen, irrespective of basic logic, story structure or character consistency? How do you rate anything then? Is it entirely subjective?

 

[Racefuel]

What was obvious to me that it was rushed and entirely convoluted. You just accept whatever you see on screen, irrespective of basic logic, story structure or character consistency? How do you rate anything then? Is it entirely subjective?

I think people who have actually watched the episode have explained their ratings perfectly fine.

yes, ratings are purely subjective and entirely emotional. There is no empirical way to rate taste and personal preference and perception.

 

[Tuskin38]

One of the opening shots of the ENT-D is different in some EU countries in for some reason?

https://twitter.com/JeanAvellan/status/1649459417002246156

 

[fireproof78]

Is it entirely subjective

Yes. Hence the rating scale.

 

[Cortez]

The Titan was beaten, they didn’t take out any fleet. The Starbase is what took out the fleet, the Titan was just running around as a distraction. After spacedock was disabled the Titan got whacked pretty hard and its cloak was disabled. It was toast

Again, that should have been obvious.

Do you review what you send? I'm not trying to be smart, but you've just made a few statements that you haven't backed with anything. . Beyond that, you're talking about the Titan when my comment was about Jack and Picard's relationship or lack thereof. Can't you see that this is a meaningless avenue to pursue?

 

[Cortez]

Yes. Hence the rating scale.

Again, irrelevant. This isn't the rating scale.

 

[Racefuel]

Do you review what you send? I'm not trying to be smart, but you've just made a few statements that you haven't backed with anything. . Beyond that, you're talking about the Titan when my comment was about Jack and Picard's relationship or lack thereof. Can't you see that this is a meaningless avenue to pursue?

You brought up the Titan taking on an entire fleet. That’s demonstrably wrong, I didn’t bring up the Titan at all.

Stop trying to shift goalposts and gaslight people.

 

[Tuskin38]

Why are you people still taking to him. It’s pointless.

 

[Cortez]

You brought up the Titan taking on an entire fleet. That’s demonstrably wrong, I didn’t bring up the Titan at all.

Stop trying to shift goalposts and gaslight people.

This is something that all of you guys do repeatedly. You grab onto one thing that you think I may have slipped up on and disregard the rest of my argument. It's so boring. And it's such a little thing too.

 

[Racefuel]

This is something that all of you guys do repeatedly. You grab onto one thing that you think I may have slipped and disregard the rest of my argument. It's so boring.

yeah well at least we watch the episodes instead of using talking points about the show and then lie about it.

every single one of your rants has something that is demonstrably wrong. You get called on it, you deflect and then either hand wave away shit, say you’re tired or just vanish.

it’s painfully obvious

 

[fireproof78]

Again, irrelevant. This isn't the rating scale.

It's still extremely subjective, which was the original point. And I believe you know that.

Otherwise all art would be by the numbers and never have a failure. Which, isn't what storytelling is all about.

YMMV. IDIC

yeah well at least we watch the episodes instead of using talking points about the show and then lie about it

And maybe find enjoyment, entertainment and dare I say the "F" word with our supposed favorite media franchise.