Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"
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The one great design they should have used this season but didn’t is the Titan’s. Oh well, at least it was on Lower Decks.
Something that occurred to me is that If the future that Archer saw during the Temporal Cold War comes to pass, that only leaves two more Enterprises after the G before we get to the USS-Enterprise-J, which will serve between 100-200 years in the future (depending on whether it is commissioned near the start or end of the century).
Perhaps it'll be a quieter time in Starfleet history without the Borg, Romulans or Changelings to worry about for a while. A nice time to get out and do some more exploration!
Perhaps it'll be a quieter time in Starfleet history without the Borg, Romulans or Changelings to worry about for a while. A nice time to get out and do some more exploration!
Okay that wasn't bad. They dialed back the fanwank to an acceptable level. Cranked up the feels. Riker's goodbye to Deanna really got me for some reason. I think the G should have been a new build. Liked hearing Walter as President Chekov. That was a nice surprise. Q, meh. Never a fan.
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Oh yeah, the Riker moment got me, too. Jonathan Frakes can still nail it.
Or perhaps they got to the end of the alphabet and started back from A.
As much as I love Stewart and Spiner, I think Frakes and Dorn were the two TNG cast members who stole the show this season. Alongside Jeri Ryan and Todd Stashwick whose performances were incredible and Amanda Plummer who should be remembered alongside her father as a truly compelling ST villain.
Let me be clear, no one was bad, but I just loved the dynamism and energy they brought.
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This is definitely one of the best episodes of PIC. It's better than the final episode of TOS and "TATV...(ENT)" but other than that it's an acceptably good series finale that's probably the best we could have gotten from this writing team.
Didi anyone else think this was the H.R. Geiger design of Borg Queens?
The damn ship finally lasted out it's shelf life.
There's plenty of STO current game lore that completely contradicted:
- WRT the Enterprise 1701-F, no, the 'launch' mission that gave all players a free version of the ship is gone, but story wise there is a mission series where Andorian Captain Va'Kel Shon (at the time in command of the Defiant Class USS Belsfast LOSES the ship); but in a later storyline shows up to save your (the player's ass) as the new Captain of the recently christened Enterprise 1701-F. (Also, there's no mention of the 1701-G because of course it never existed in Star Trek in any form until 24 hours ago.
) And as you know from then on the 1701-F shows up as a major player in the Iconian War and the recent Klingon Civil War storylines in STO. If Terry Matalas hadn't made the Titan in the 1701-G, and fully decommissioned the 1701-F; the fact that in the now canon Trek Prime Timeline the Odyssey Class first appeared in 2385 - and the 1701-F decommissioned in 2302 (7 year prior to it's first launch in 2409 in STO) - yeah, they might have just ignored the decommissioned status. But yeah you now can't really ignore that there was a Constitution III 1701-G Enterprise that NO ONE MENTIONS in STO...- Including it's in 2310 supposed former Captain 7of9 (who also plays a big role in STO's 2410 Iconian War storyline; and Jeri Ryan has VO'd many missions and Special Task Forces aka STFs). And In that storyline, she tells you she never joined Starfleet and only agreed to assist as a special consultant for a short time and sounds VERY MUCH like an older Voyager based like 7of9 in her speech patterns. And in 2011 (STO's current year) - post the Iconian War Arc, 70f9 was suddenly (and Jeri Ryan also did more VO) is STILL a Fenris Ranger (Because hey, it was 2 years ago when PICARD S1 was airing.) STO also used to have Icheb as a non VO'd text speaking NPC on the K-9 Space station, but after Icheb was killed in Picard STO just removed said NPC from the game.
- Geordi Laforge (and Levar Burton has VO'd him in game in MANY missions and a STF) is still the Captain of the U.S.S. Challenger in game. You met him and work with him and his ship in a number of early missions.
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Like the history of the 1701-F Geordi, and STO's version of 7of9 can't just be handwaved away without really reworking major sections of content that players use/see. And if you know Cryptic's past and current development strategies; there is NO WAY they are going to remove and rework MASSIVE SWATHS of Levar Burton's or Jeri Ryan's voice over work that they paid a good sum of money for. They already stated once/if Streaming Trek diverged too far, they would consider STO and alternate dimension/timeline of Star trek unto itself - and after PICARD S3 - I think that's where they're at.
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If your a Star trek Online Player - It's official (from their message board as there's no way to link a
single post there - From the STO Community Manager)
STO Message Board Post:
ambassadorkael#6946;d-1270423 said:Mods, I love you, don't sticky this.
I haven't seen it yet, but apparently the most recent episode of Picard does *something* that invalidates STO canon pretty badly. (Don't spoil it here, please.) We've always known when the TV shows got this close to our timeline, stuff would happen that would step on us and our ten years of stories. Given how much we've all been enjoying Picard this season, we're fine with it. STO is it's own thing, and always will be, and we'll tell our own stories no matter what happens.
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THAT IS HOW YOU END A SERIES!!!!!!!! I can’t BEGIN to describe how much I adored the Picard finale. And how many tears I shed. And how much I am grateful that we got to have a proper send-off to these characters I’ve spent nearly thirty years watching. Characters who first captured my imagination when I was just eight years old and propelled me into a world that has been a source of hope and adventure and inspiration for me my entire life.
Neither as far as we know. I would have liked to see Laris again.
I'd use the Greek letters.
I gave this one an 8. An improvement from last week's, which I gave a 7. Not much happened in the previous episode other than nostalgia and exposition. The finale was a step up. Not a classic (10) or near classic (9), but solid entertainment. More than what I need to keep coming back for more.
In a nutshell, I'd say the finale stuck the landing, but it wasn't the most original conclusion. It was obvious last week that removing Jack from the Borg cube would be the primary solution for the finale. He was the transmitter and they had to get him out. That was all done a bit too easily and predictably for my tastes. I mean, the Queen even welcomed the Enterprise crew aboard. And I'm not one for the love saves the day against a murdering collective hive mind solution. But, in the end, the emotional connection between Jack and JL was earned enough to warrant the conclusion.
The scenes of Seven and others on the Titan were entertaining. But they felt like they were just there to give them something to do while not really affecting the conclusion (that was all Jack and JL).
Unlike what Matalas said, this wasn't a stuffed hour. It was basically just several things--the Jack and JL connection and the Titan distractions. Followed by a whole bunch of feel-good nostalgia stuff that literally took up at least 20 minutes. That said, I'm glad they were left in a good place. Open for more.
They did entirely gloss over Jack's culpability. Unlike JL who was abducted and then assimilated, Jack has no valid excuse. He voluntarily turned himself over to the Queen. Surely given the large battle between Starfleet's fleet and Space Dock & Earth Defenses, there were surely some deaths in that massive exchange of firepower. Those are on Jack. But they left him in a happy place like everyone else.
So, would I like to see the Legacy series run by Matalas?
Yes, I'd be down for that. While this season wasn't perfect, it was pretty good. Again, not classic or near classic quality, but good solid entertainment. In fact, it's near the top of the streaming Trek pack. I'd place it about on par with SNW's first season. And I'd love to see Seven as Captain and I've enjoyed getting to know the other characters on the Titan, and yes, even Jack.
In a nutshell, I'd say the finale stuck the landing, but it wasn't the most original conclusion. It was obvious last week that removing Jack from the Borg cube would be the primary solution for the finale. He was the transmitter and they had to get him out. That was all done a bit too easily and predictably for my tastes. I mean, the Queen even welcomed the Enterprise crew aboard. And I'm not one for the love saves the day against a murdering collective hive mind solution. But, in the end, the emotional connection between Jack and JL was earned enough to warrant the conclusion.
The scenes of Seven and others on the Titan were entertaining. But they felt like they were just there to give them something to do while not really affecting the conclusion (that was all Jack and JL).
Unlike what Matalas said, this wasn't a stuffed hour. It was basically just several things--the Jack and JL connection and the Titan distractions. Followed by a whole bunch of feel-good nostalgia stuff that literally took up at least 20 minutes. That said, I'm glad they were left in a good place. Open for more.
They did entirely gloss over Jack's culpability. Unlike JL who was abducted and then assimilated, Jack has no valid excuse. He voluntarily turned himself over to the Queen. Surely given the large battle between Starfleet's fleet and Space Dock & Earth Defenses, there were surely some deaths in that massive exchange of firepower. Those are on Jack. But they left him in a happy place like everyone else.
So, would I like to see the Legacy series run by Matalas?
Yes, I'd be down for that. While this season wasn't perfect, it was pretty good. Again, not classic or near classic quality, but good solid entertainment. In fact, it's near the top of the streaming Trek pack. I'd place it about on par with SNW's first season. And I'd love to see Seven as Captain and I've enjoyed getting to know the other characters on the Titan, and yes, even Jack.
Same here about Laris.
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