With Kelpian hoof boot tech from DISCO they could make that work.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"
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Think it comes from a Batman comic, it usually refers to killing off a character (as pointed out, often female these days) where the death literally serves no other purpose than to either make the (usually male) hero go out and do something, or to add a personal dimension to what they are going to do anyway. The character — girlfriend, wife, love interest what have you, sometimes but thankfully rarely child — and event serves no other purpose than to chivvy the hero along on his way.
It’s been around a long time before being given the nickname, and so long that we were subverting it years ago, and it’s pretty much an integral part of any ‘revenge’ story. Though it’s also *extremely* silly at times. It’s basically Steven Seagals career.
edit: see someone got there before me xD green lantern not Batman… all these superheroes look alike I swear
Shelby could have been any captain — but it adds layers when it’s Shelby. Icheb could (and was, as we saw) have been any Ex-Borg, but it added layers that it was him. It’s actually *closer* to traditional fridging, in that the only reason the character was put there to die was to make Seven angry, and show us the new bad-ass Seven. It didn’t really affect the plot much after that, and I’m not sure Seven did much either… the Borg in season one and that whole plot line kind of fizzed more than popped.
Me too. I wonder if they would dare to send off a little Picard Polycule in order to have their cake and eat it. I… do not think we will see her again, sadly.
I got it wrong xD added an edit as soon as I saw the other post. Superheroes are not my strong suit. Apart from a certain era of X-Men maybe.
Comics do revenge plots a lot — I was big on The Crow which is so much more than the usual tropes, but The Crow: Flesh & Blood was probably even better at subverting or at least reframing the usual sorts of tropes.
What wins on how it "really" looks? The limitations of TV show budgets or limitless artistic license in a drawing?
I could point out TOS Klingons before TMP and after fits under his but DS9 had to screw it up by drawing attention to it. They could have just done/said nothing. Have Worf appear in the 23c settings looking like a TOS Klingon and "himself" in the DS9 sets. Just leave it alone, Klingons always looked like this they just didn't in TOS because they couldn't.
I make the same argument for Tellarites theyhave hooves they just don't when we see them because TV budgets are restricted.
I just realized something:
The whole deal with the angsty and conflicted son of a legacy character following a mysterious signal to the lair of a long-thought-dead villain who has somehow returned and urges the son to join them in their Evil Plan—it's The Rise of Skywalker.
And when the time arrives the Borg Queen executes Order 66 and suddenly all the good guys' allies turn against them.
I'm not being critical, I'm just pointing out an amazing similarity.
The whole deal with the angsty and conflicted son of a legacy character following a mysterious signal to the lair of a long-thought-dead villain who has somehow returned and urges the son to join them in their Evil Plan—it's The Rise of Skywalker.
And when the time arrives the Borg Queen executes Order 66 and suddenly all the good guys' allies turn against them.
I'm not being critical, I'm just pointing out an amazing similarity.
I am sure we will, I was just trying to make a funny!
Everyone knows there’s only seven basic plots. And whatever Twin Peaks was.
That whole sequence was (likely coincidentally) riffing the intro of TROS almost beat-for-beat, complete with the disembodied voice reverberating around a dark corridor as a character ventures warily into the lair of an old villain that's shockingly revealed to be crippled and mishappen.
Worlds of the Federation
Exactly that. Agreed.
You are correct. I've still got those comics. Fun times.
TROS didn't invent that
We're only missing the long montage set to mournful music of beloved DS9, VOY, LD, and Prodigy characters looking on in shock as they're gunned down with elderly Janeway collapsing in agony at the deaths just before junior officers at her location aim for her.
I can't wait for Robot Chicken to do "The Borg Queen's Phone Call":
BORG QUEEN: "What? What do you mean 'They pulled out the D'? Look I know this show is supposed to be 'more adult' but that crosses the line!"
Hence coincidentally.
