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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"

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cooleddie74 said:
UESPA existed from at least 2067 until at minimum 2267. 200 years. It would appear the United Earth Starfleet was an offshoot of UESPA circa 2132 and UESPA remained the Earth-based operating authority for Starfleet until at least 2267 or the first season of TOS. After "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" the agency is never again mentioned as existing in the chronology.
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Two earth probes (Nomad, and V'Ger) came back from deep space to destroy the federation.

Starfleet distancing itself from honouring Earth Probes by this point seems wise, although if you're going to name a ship "Voyager" after all those people died, they might as well have a "USS John Wayne Gacey" in the fleet too.
 
jackoverfull said:
sounds pretty easy to explain, especially as he already told Laris about Beverly. And I don’t get the feeling JL and Beverly are getting back together, there are plenty of couples where one of the partners has kids with previous lovers, even today.


it’s not like he had much time to tell her what he’s been up to in the last twenty years.
Didn’t she have something else to do?

weren’t the Borg mentioned in season 4 if discovery? They surely still existed in some form in “the far future” on Lower Decks.

especially as lower decks showed an Olympic class ship already!


I was never a big fan of the design, but it grew on me watching Hidden Frontier. And the added bulk of the third nacelle surely helps to make her more balanced.
I think the Galaxy ships we see on later seasons of DS9 had those anyway.

got the same feeling.
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This Queen may not even have a skeleton crew or entourage of drones with her, she may be entirely alone on that Borg vessel/station, like a mad witch in a tower, setting up that giant transmitter herself (and in S1 you can see how Seven as a Queen could re-arrange modules and activiate swarms of mini-drones to repair stuff by herself).

And why the prolonged, overly elaborate scheme to hijack Starfleet using unlikely proxy allies?
 
We have the Enterprise-J around 2573 and that means another 617 years after that (even including The Burn) for the alphabet to continue. Eleven Federation starships with the name between 2245 and 2573 so it's possible the alphabet's been extinguished by the time of The Burn. :lol:
 
Just watched episode 9 and it's interesting how a lot of the predictions written on here came true - the connection between Jack and the Borg, all Starfleet ships being connected and the return of the repaired Enterprise D as the only unconnected ship to save the day.

Of course the idea of Locutus DNA being integrated into all Starfleet ships to assimilate them via use of the transporters was a bit silly and it's still frustrating not to know what happened to the Enterprise E besides hinting it was destroyed as Geordi said it obviously couldn't be used.
 
TedShatner10 said:
This Queen may not even have a skeleton crew or entourage of drones with her, she may be entirely alone on that Borg vessel/station, like a mad witch in a tower, setting up that giant transmitter herself (and in S1 you can see how Seven as a Queen could re-arrange modules and activiate swarms of mini-drones to repair stuff by herself).

And why the prolonged, overly elaborate scheme to hijack Starfleet using unlikely proxy allies?
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There was at least one drone visible in an alcove. Given the disarray of the cube, they are not doing all that well.
 
There's some very interesting subtext in this episode. Written and Directed by Terry Matalas.

Starfleet (The franchise) is damaged, dark and broken by several very poor decisions, and it's up to The Last Generation to set things right (yes, Ep 10 does end on a very hopeful note). Ep 9 is Infinity War, Ep 10 is Endgame.


The Gen Z (Zoomers) are the ones to have their minds warped and corrupted (an interesting commentary on today's society; social media, the looming mental health crisis facing that generation). And I'm early 30s, so I'm not talking down on them, I'm just recognizing the commentary here (or commenTerry ;).. lol)

The Transgender character (Ensign Esmar) is used as the face of this group, and they take the command chair and give the fleet orders.

And then Terry gives many of the supposed 'Anti-Woke' channels on YT these episodes way in advance, and appears on their channels regularly.

In many ways, this almost comes across as the opposite approach and perspective that the Discovery 'creatives' took with their version of Star Trek.


All that being said, I still stand by this is a 20/10 episode... with the best yet to come. We haven't seen such an effective payoff like this since "What You Leave Behind."
 
TerryTrek said:
There's some very interesting subtext in this episode. Written and Directed by Terry Matalas.

Starfleet (The franchise) is damaged, dark and broken by several very poor decisions, and it's up to The Last Generation to set things right (yes, Ep 10 does end on a very hopeful note). Ep 9 is Infinity War, Ep 10 is Endgame.


The Gen Z (Zoomers) are the ones to have their minds warped and corrupted (an interesting commentary on today's society; social media, the looming mental health crisis facing that generation). And I'm early 30s, so I'm not talking down on them, I'm just recognizing the commentary here (or commenTerry ;).. lol)

The Transgender character (Ensign Esmar) is used as the face of this group, and they take the command chair and give the fleet orders.

And then Terry gives many of the supposed 'Anti-Woke' channels on YT these episodes way in advance, and appears on their channels regularly.

In many ways, this almost comes across as the opposite approach and perspective that the Discovery 'creatives' took with their version of Star Trek.


All that being said, I still stand by this is a 20/10 episode... with the best yet to come. We haven't seen such an effective payoff like this since "What You Leave Behind."
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I am not familiar with Terry’s online exploits and associations, but I don’t read a reactionary subtext to this. Maybe there is! I’m just not sure it’s really what’s being transmitted. Trek is never subtle in its social commentary so I feel like if it were going reactionary it would be much more obvious?
 
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