I wonder if Peter David is healthy enough to write a final New Frontier novel in reaction to this episode.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"
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A dictator that wields authority through the forcible excision of individuality is a great concept in Trek. It's the ultimate antithesis to liberalism. Besides, there are so few villains in Trek that are just evil, so it's refreshing.
They're social events. They're an opportunity to hang out with your fellow fans, see old friends, make new ones, check out the cool costumes, browse the dealer's room, go to panels, and hang out in the bar with your Trekkie pals until they kick you out. They're parties/reunions/fairs and festivals. In short, they're for fun and socializing.
(I like to describe the annual Shore Leave convention in Maryland as the Trek Novelist High School Reunion.)
And, honestly, back in the day, before the internet, when you were lucky if maybe there was one other sci-fi nerd at your high school, it was frankly amazing and practically life-changing to suddenly find yourself in the same place with dozens of people who shared your own, weird, fannish tastes. Conventions were where we found our tribe, forged lifelong friendships, romantic relationships, and often blossomed in a supportive, hospitable environment.
The celebrity appearances are just icing on the cake.
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I'm 37 years old and I've heard that complaint about my generation my entire adult life. Meanwhile, every single Millennial I know works their butts off, most of the ones who graduated into the Great Recession have only recently started to have financial security of any level, and most of them have had to juggle multiple jobs for years. I am so, so tired of this bullshit.
Why?
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Equal parts fun and dumb, but the former tends to cancel out the latter (at least on a first viewing). The mystery box reveal wasn't as bad as I feared - no Armus or Sela, thankfully!
I did cringe at the ship bit, though, despite a few funny lines.
I remember one of the obnoxious YouTube channels had a sarcastic line about how they clapped when the Enterprise appeared in Disco. Their echo chamber thought that was so clever that they went around incessantly repeating it for a while as a ready-made rebuke of the franchise relying on nostalgia.
Now those same people are unironically clapping, tears in their eyes, at the most hamfisted nostalgia imaginable.
I did cringe at the ship bit, though, despite a few funny lines.
I remember one of the obnoxious YouTube channels had a sarcastic line about how they clapped when the Enterprise appeared in Disco. Their echo chamber thought that was so clever that they went around incessantly repeating it for a while as a ready-made rebuke of the franchise relying on nostalgia.
Now those same people are unironically clapping, tears in their eyes, at the most hamfisted nostalgia imaginable.
I disagree, it's the best use of the blaster beam since 1979.
I've rewatched it three times, and only now did I notice Stewart does the 'Picard Maneuver' as he sits down in the D's Captain's chair.
I think he’s been very keen to write one for a while; they just wouldn’t give him a contract. Shame, I loved his stuff - even though his writing became very dark as time went on.
Yes he did the Picard maneuver, make it so, and engage. I'm waiting for the commander Riker maneuver in the last episode. It was great. Only a stone cold heart would say this was terrible and that they hated it especially if they were Next Generation fans.
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Some of the best memories of my life happened at a Star Trek convention. Getting to meet some of my favorite actors was a wonderful bonus, but aside from that, never did I feel more at home than when I was surrounded by my fellow Star Trek nerds.
Agree. She was fine in First Contact to give the Borg a literal face, but she's been used poorly ever since and I wasn't happy about the revisionism of "The Queen was there all along!" I think the Borg can and should go about their business just fine without the queen much of the time.
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I quite agree. Star Trek fans no matter what background they have where they come from and who they are or what they believe Star Trek always is something that brings these people together. I used to love going to Pure Star Trek conventions as a kid. Because I knew everyone there was just like me. We had an insatiable thirst for Star Trek.
Those youtubers watched the episodes without the weekly wait. It's possible it's better when binging I know season 1 benefited quite a bit from a binge watch for me.
I'm not crying....it's just allergies
I'd buy it.
Holy crap…76 pages on DAY 1.
I’d give this one an 8.5-9 outta 10. Demerits for killing Shaw but bonus for the E-D reveal.
I thought Jack submitted to the Queen a bit too easily.
I said this morning I thought the only reason Shaw died was to set up Seven as the Captain of the Titan (or whatever ship) for Legacy…after rewatching…yeah…I still think that and it stinks. “Its your ship now…you have the conn…”
who woulda pegged Data as a pessimist.
loved Worf extolling the virtues of the Enterprise E
The Enterprise F is ugly. Props to the creator and the STO folk for getting their time to shine but…woof. That said if Master Replicas finds stock of the Eaglemoss model of it they made I’ll buy one to add to the collection of Enterprises I have.
it was a bit of a jump in logic that Borg experienced Admirals like Janeway (presumably) and Shelby would be down with the connected fleet when Riker could spot how Borg like it was.
The E-D reveal was really well done. I wonder if Barrett’s voice was always there or if they added it later after Matalas found out there was a sound library available that she recorded.
Can’t wait to see how they wrap it up.
I’d give this one an 8.5-9 outta 10. Demerits for killing Shaw but bonus for the E-D reveal.
I thought Jack submitted to the Queen a bit too easily.
I said this morning I thought the only reason Shaw died was to set up Seven as the Captain of the Titan (or whatever ship) for Legacy…after rewatching…yeah…I still think that and it stinks. “Its your ship now…you have the conn…”
who woulda pegged Data as a pessimist.
loved Worf extolling the virtues of the Enterprise E
The Enterprise F is ugly. Props to the creator and the STO folk for getting their time to shine but…woof. That said if Master Replicas finds stock of the Eaglemoss model of it they made I’ll buy one to add to the collection of Enterprises I have.
it was a bit of a jump in logic that Borg experienced Admirals like Janeway (presumably) and Shelby would be down with the connected fleet when Riker could spot how Borg like it was.
The E-D reveal was really well done. I wonder if Barrett’s voice was always there or if they added it later after Matalas found out there was a sound library available that she recorded.
Can’t wait to see how they wrap it up.
I thought they might make use of the old ships somehow back when we first saw them as museum ships. Recreate some version of "Someone is stealing the Enterprise". Using the Voyager, the 1701-A, the 1701-B or something along those lines. Having a restored 1701-D controlled largely by automation so that just the handful of the them can operate it more or less fits that bill. It's a good callback to ST-III and obviously gives them all that moment on their old bridge. I'm ok with all of that.
Riker has always been good about distilling things down to its simplicity and he has a keen insight that others don't seem to possess. He's always been that way.
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