Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"
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They had the NX-01 available.. Couldn't they have atleast Towed it to Earth to be part of the cermony? Maybe give it impulse power?? Fly in formation with the Ent F like some airshows do with say a P 51 and an F 15?
"[They] added new Borg DNA into everyone who steps inside a transporter... They've been assimilating the entire fleet this whole time, without anyone even knowing it."
Dr. McCoy is spinning in his grave. "What did I tell you? Dumb asses."
Dr. McCoy is spinning in his grave. "What did I tell you? Dumb asses."
In a way, this episode brings up memories of a dreadful 1960s movie called "Wild in the Streets". In the movie, people younger than 35 were rounding up people older than them and are rounded up, sent to re-education camps, and dosed out on LSD. The Borg are cutting to the chase - they are exterminating who is older than a certain age. For humans, that is 25.
Yeah I'm worried the D will be gone after this episode. It deserves a place in that museum .
Well, this is definitely the best episode in the show's questionable history.
Which means that it deserves about a B minus. Some nice fan service (if a bit heavy handed at times.)
But the episode would have been SO much more effective if the show hadn't already been nothing but a clumsy, jumbled collection of references, callbacks and strip-mining of the lore.
The Borg's appearance would have hit light a thunderbolt had the show not already wildly (and badly) overused the Borg in Season 1. (And Season 2!)
Because apparently EVERYTHING always has go come back to the Borg.
But some of the ideas here are actually pretty clever. Had the show not already run the Borg into the ground (as did Voyager before it.)
And having rogue Changelings and Borg in a supervillain team up is just dumb. It smacks of an eight-year-old on the playground having his Darth Vader and Joker action figures team up to fight Spider-Man.
Which means that it deserves about a B minus. Some nice fan service (if a bit heavy handed at times.)
But the episode would have been SO much more effective if the show hadn't already been nothing but a clumsy, jumbled collection of references, callbacks and strip-mining of the lore.
The Borg's appearance would have hit light a thunderbolt had the show not already wildly (and badly) overused the Borg in Season 1. (And Season 2!)
Because apparently EVERYTHING always has go come back to the Borg.
But some of the ideas here are actually pretty clever. Had the show not already run the Borg into the ground (as did Voyager before it.)
And having rogue Changelings and Borg in a supervillain team up is just dumb. It smacks of an eight-year-old on the playground having his Darth Vader and Joker action figures team up to fight Spider-Man.
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The show has been a series of cameos that immediately die. Ro, Tuvok (technically killed offscreen ahead of time) and now Shelby.
I don't think the D is coming home from this one.
One final showdown with the bullies that have bloodied her nose several times. She goes down swinging I predict!
Seeing her power up, the musical cues as she warps to her final mission, kinda hits you in the feels. This ship means a lot to most of the audience. Something the Abram's movies seem to have forgotten. When they smashed her to bits in Beyond I didn't feel too much.
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WILD IN THE STREETS!!!
That would be very bad writing. So I give it an 85% chance of happening.
Shelby is back! I never liked her. But it's cool she's back. And how perfect, Riker notes, that Ms. Anti-Borg being for the networked fleet makes it so much worse. Only Nixon could go to China.
Troi did well in her capacities as both Betazoid and counselor. There are protocols, she said, and followed them, regardless what the admiral or her friends wanted.
Borg shmorg, let's go. Interesting that they have organic tech.
The whole fleet should be bigger by orders of magnitude and include more alien names. I'll imagine them just off camera, or parading planetside – as that stream of ships seemed to be going to coming from.
I love love LOVE the updated TNG theme playing as the Enterprise comes out of Spacedock. I must have watched the last 2-3 minutes of the episode 15 times. Cannot wait to be able to download it.
I don't understand why people like the F or any of the designs from STO. They're ugly silly designs from a game whose priority is not esthetics or verisimilitude. But I'm happy those that do like it got that multi-platform synergy. Here's to you tonight.
The beguiling of the young using TikTok, er, the transporters is inspired.
Geordi: Of course we can't use the Enterprise-E...
Worf: That was not my fault.
...Awesome. Worf (as per his uniform pips) is a captain, and I imagine him being the E's captain at the end. Looking forward to that story in the novels. *If he doesn't return in the live action to tell more of the tale himself.
Geordi: Data you've got to be more positive
Data: [With a happy smile] I hope we die quickly!
Seven: The robot is right.
Dipshit: You have the con, Seven of Nine.
...With the blessing of the former (repentant) captain, might Seven get the Titan...in the next series?
The ship. The ship. The ship. The ship. I could only say, "My God," about half a dozen times at the end of the episode and nothing else before going to bed last night. We guessed it was coming, and then it came. First the vague shapes through the Spacedock doors that had me calling my maker. Then the ragged old saucer (correctly removed from the Veridian system) and attached(!) to a salvaged 'nother stardrive. Then the arrival on the bridge, and its lights coming on...and seeing it, perfectly restored, bathed in a soft loving glow....and on it juxtaposed such aged figures, world-weary and darker for it, like the rest of us, occupying that divine, ethereal bridge.....it was breathtaking and elating. ...This will be the last time we see any of this again in this life. Whatever might not work with the episode/season/series, one is a fool not to appreciate this... Declarations of love, preparations for battle, the swelling of beloved music, and the warp to save home. My God.
Troi did well in her capacities as both Betazoid and counselor. There are protocols, she said, and followed them, regardless what the admiral or her friends wanted.
Borg shmorg, let's go. Interesting that they have organic tech.
The whole fleet should be bigger by orders of magnitude and include more alien names. I'll imagine them just off camera, or parading planetside – as that stream of ships seemed to be going to coming from.
I love love LOVE the updated TNG theme playing as the Enterprise comes out of Spacedock. I must have watched the last 2-3 minutes of the episode 15 times. Cannot wait to be able to download it.
I don't understand why people like the F or any of the designs from STO. They're ugly silly designs from a game whose priority is not esthetics or verisimilitude. But I'm happy those that do like it got that multi-platform synergy. Here's to you tonight.
The beguiling of the young using TikTok, er, the transporters is inspired.
Geordi: Of course we can't use the Enterprise-E...
Worf: That was not my fault.
...Awesome. Worf (as per his uniform pips) is a captain, and I imagine him being the E's captain at the end. Looking forward to that story in the novels. *If he doesn't return in the live action to tell more of the tale himself.
Geordi: Data you've got to be more positive
Data: [With a happy smile] I hope we die quickly!
Seven: The robot is right.
Dipshit: You have the con, Seven of Nine.
...With the blessing of the former (repentant) captain, might Seven get the Titan...in the next series?
The ship. The ship. The ship. The ship. I could only say, "My God," about half a dozen times at the end of the episode and nothing else before going to bed last night. We guessed it was coming, and then it came. First the vague shapes through the Spacedock doors that had me calling my maker. Then the ragged old saucer (correctly removed from the Veridian system) and attached(!) to a salvaged 'nother stardrive. Then the arrival on the bridge, and its lights coming on...and seeing it, perfectly restored, bathed in a soft loving glow....and on it juxtaposed such aged figures, world-weary and darker for it, like the rest of us, occupying that divine, ethereal bridge.....it was breathtaking and elating. ...This will be the last time we see any of this again in this life. Whatever might not work with the episode/season/series, one is a fool not to appreciate this... Declarations of love, preparations for battle, the swelling of beloved music, and the warp to save home. My God.
Tim Russ said he's in 2 episodes.
Honestly if she goes out like a goddamn hero (unlike that bullshit in GEN) I’m fine with it.
While the fall of the Berlin Wall was still 6 months away when "Q, Who? aired, by that point ham-handed communist allegories were already a thing of the past.
I'm really hoping we've not seen the last of Shaw, and Seven lets her magical nanoprobes save him (which would REALLY ruffle his feathers 
) But, if Shaw is a goner, he went out a badass, laying down cover fire for our heroes. Also, when he finally called Seven by her preferred name and Seven's reaction to his death 
I'm hoping, though, Seven brings him back and we get a scene during Starfleet's debriefing like the end of Beverly Hills Cop with Lt. Bogomil and the Chief about Axel Foley, with Shaw stating the whole operation was his idea and Picard and co. were only along as observers. Extra bonus if afterwards, Data looks at Shaw and says, "You were lying your ASS off."
) But, if Shaw is a goner, he went out a badass, laying down cover fire for our heroes. Also, when he finally called Seven by her preferred name and Seven's reaction to his death I'm hoping, though, Seven brings him back and we get a scene during Starfleet's debriefing like the end of Beverly Hills Cop with Lt. Bogomil and the Chief about Axel Foley, with Shaw stating the whole operation was his idea and Picard and co. were only along as observers. Extra bonus if afterwards, Data looks at Shaw and says, "You were lying your ASS off."
Excretus of Borg returns!
I may be wrong...
They are not the "real" Borg.
Have we seen a classic drone, or a non virtual Cube?
This Borg, is completely biological and has been living in Picard since First Contact. I can only assume that this bio Borg they took steps to arrange a fail safe if Picard dies, by hiring mutant Changeling to activate the Virus in Jack, if Picard dies.
I'm guessing the virus sent Picard on Commando missions when Jean Luc was sleeping. The virus and the man shared the one body.
So, not the real Borg, and not even a Derivative Borg from this timeline.
The Real Borg might be pissed that these Fake Borg are felling worlds in the Borg name.
SULLYING their good name.
Fake Borg.
One can only hope they are.