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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"

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Or it would've been another great way to work in the word "fuck." As in, "Fuck off you hypocrite. Call me by the name I've chosen and is meaningful to me."

Not a fan of her calling him that given her own story this season.

That's fine if you want fiction-as-polemic.

I like it that fictional characters can be massive hypocrites, such as the freedom-fighting Rebels in Star Wars not caring at all that the droids they use are obviously slaves. It feels more real, like people actually are. We aren't consistent about this kind of thing.
 
Geordi saying that he'd been acquiring parts from multiple Galaxy-class ships as they were either retired or upgraded for the last 20 years. The Challenger, the Venture, the Magellan, the Syracuse, maybe the Galaxy herself (though I'd like to believe she's still in service somewhere and becomes the longest serving Galaxy-class ship in Starfleet history).
I actually wanted the stardrive section to come from the Challenger and confirm it to have been Geordi's command.
 
honestly…yes.
They went to a set replica like fan films have been doing for decades and we all loved it, but the episode itself had more holes than Swiss cheese.
Again, there were some nice moments and some well done stuff, but this seasons had much better episodes imho.
What holes do you think there were?
 
Truly awful in every way... :barf: You should be ashamed.

Those uppity women sure do need to keep their place right? Wow

I believe it was in part a humorous comment, made a poster identified in their av as a woman.
A lot of people did not like Shelby back in the day.

The only named character death I wish hadn’t happened this season so far was Ro. And maybe Shaw.
 
What holes do you think there were?
The whole plan is just extremely convoluted and it’s not believable it would work, especially as it relies on a single person being at the right place at the right moment while the whole fleet (!!!) is somehow in the Sol system, for example. And of course the only (!) ship still free of Borg influence is the D.
 
Troi really hasn't been used well this season. Not appearing for most of it. Then when she has her big moment, she runs. I've read that Sirtis wasn't happy with her role this season. If that's true, I can see why. Hopefully, she'll have good moments in the finale.
She hasn't had a huge impact on the season, but I would say Sirtis is making the best of her opportunities. Indeed, she sold the horror of the Borg reveal with gusto, playing the Final Girl to a T.
 
I believe it was in part a humorous comment, made a poster identified in their av as a woman.
A lot of people did not like Shelby back in the day.

The only named character death I wish hadn’t happened this season so far was Ro. And maybe Shaw.
Perhaps so, but I've also seen women who are the worst supporters of their own kind. It's not just men. See: demographics from the Cage Pilot.

You can do a modern poll on if it's OK to hit women if they get mouthy, a fair chunk of women will say yes. Just as another example.
 
That's fine if you want fiction-as-polemic.

I like it that fictional characters can be massive hypocrites, such as the freedom-fighting Rebels in Star Wars not caring at all that the droids they use are obviously slaves. It feels more real, like people actually are. We aren't consistent about this kind of thing.
The Mandalorian provided an explanation for the droid thing a week or so back, very flimsy, but it's better than nothing.

It's more interesting that the Jedi willingly using a slave clone army and the hypocrisy that goes into that is barely touched on in the mountains of Clone Wars material out there.
 
What holes do you think there were?
I forgot to add in the below that the changeling transporter officer trying to kill Jack, who was crucial to the changeling's own plot, will likely never be explained.
It's as bad as I thought when I first heard rumors this big bad was going to be a Borg thing and I was hoping it wasn't--this episode literally confirmed my fears. This episode put someone I was watching with just now more or less off Trek despite her liking the older TOS episodes. Here it's all grimdark horror story violence. She pointed out this was even worse than the Mandalorian, which is saying a lot.

And even me, a long time Trekkie for all of Trek's incarnations (except Lower Decks) can't help seeing plotholes big enough to fly a starship through. So Locutus had extra special DNA to control other drones? Funny because that might've been really useful for Picard to have to control Borg he was fighting in practically every encounter with them after BOBW, particularly First Contact. Ok so it was a seed? How the hell did the Borg know that Locutus would escape and more importantly how could they have predicted him reproducing? The Borg knew everything Picard knew, which as of the time of his assimilation was an old guy married to his job with literally no realistic romantic/family prospects. That's also assuming Picard would never use even 21st century level birth control here. This plan falls apart unless the Borg literally know the future.

The "catch" that only younger than 25 year old human (or human equivalent apparently) can be assimilated by this DNA is so nonsensical I don't even know where to begin. I guess the Borg line up their battle plans with real world tv show revivals.

So Locutus is so extra special that only he got this DNA, even though it makes more sense to put this special DNA into younger drones who escape like B'elanna, Seven, etc. (And remember there's like a whole community of ex-Borg out there so the Borg should've put this DNA in all of them because the chances of them reproducing was a hell of a lot higher than Picard's). Oh wait what? This DNA can actually be just implanted onto people via transport? I thought Picard's DNA was the controller signal? But now putting it into transporter victims suddenly makes them the receiver signal? This "logic" is all falling apart. So actually the Borg could've just infiltrated Starfleet and beamed their special DNA into everyone decades ago. Why didn't they? Even M'Benga was reprogramming transporters way back when. How lucky for them that Section 31 conveniently made a bunch of super-changelings that are better at evading detection that JUST SO happen to also decide to team up with the Borg and help by impersonating transporter operators. The amount of contrived incidents keep piling on.

I guess Vadic's boss is irrelevant even though he must be a Borg who apparently doesn't act or talk like any Borg before or since, including the Borg seen in this episode.

Shelby's death is the sort of "dying like a punk" scene that Sam Jackson insisted be avoided for Mace Windu over at that other star franchise.

Let's not even get into the absurdity of a ship that's meant to be crewed by hundreds being crewed by a total of 7, all on the bridge, into combat against a Borg armada. Even Scotty noted when the 1701, crewed by a handful in Search for Spock, met just one Klingon ship and was like "I didn't think I'd be taking her into combat, you know!"

I feel sorry for all the new Trek actors who signed up for Picard thinking this was going to lead to a future of continuing spinoffs etc. Isa Briones and Evan Evagora are extraordinarily lucky their characters survived what can only be described as the "Picard show new character bloodbath". I'd say Michelle Hurd too but there's still one episode left.
 
Perhaps so, but I've also seen women who are the worst supporters of their own kind. It's not just men. See: demographics from the Cage Pilot.

You can do a modern poll on if it's OK to hit women if they get mouthy, a fair chunk of women will say yes. Just as another example.

I do not think these extreme examples apply when someone is talking about a character like Shelby (who was intentionally written as antagonistic) and is making no reference whatsoever to their sex or gender when making a joke about them being written out. Some people eally liked the character, some didn’t.

I got used to seeing characters I like bite the dust — first Tasha, then Sito Jaxa. As two examples. Both were a bit more likeable that ‘you’re in my way’ Shelby.

I wouldn’t worry.
 
The whole plan is just extremely convoluted and it’s not believable it would work, especially as it relies on a single person being at the right place at the right moment while the whole fleet (!!!) is somehow in the Sol system, for example. And of course the only (!) ship still free of Borg influence is the D.

To be fair, assuming they were up and running, any of the museum ships would work. Arguably, the Defiant would be the one to take. Or the Voyager, maybe. But Geordi would know best.
 
I considered what you said carefully, and it may not be a masterpiece, but neither was BoBW, which nevertheless was a fantastic episode of the franchise. I would say the same here too.

I've said before about this season of Picard that I'm prepared to overlook a number of minor plot quibbles or questionable design choices because the emotional beats are landing perfectly each and every single time. This has been such a celebration of the actors and characters that made me fall in love with Star Trek in the first place.
 
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