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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"

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DaveyNY said:
Captain Shaw took a direct phaser hit to the chest.
I'm thinking he's probably not going to get to sickbay in time to save him with the TITAN being overrun with Borg.
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Ah, you know...phasers do just as much damage as the plot requires. :D
 
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Enterpriserules said:
Well it’s the Borg. It’s like we can never escape them. I can help but feel let down at the moment.
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Yeah, me too. Lots of retconning going on. This one's a 7 for me. Exciting in a couple of places, but ultimately, a mostly been-there-done-that feeling. I will say the wonky technobabble about the new assimilation process is nifty. I'm sure Geordi's daughters will be fine though. But I bet Jack either joins Jurati or dies. Too bad about Shaw, I liked him. Data 2.0 had the funniest line, "I hope we die quickly!"
 
Visitor1982 said:
I giggled when Seven of Nine said: 'The machine is right' or something about Data. I wish Dr. Pulaski would have been there to say it.
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That scene made Seven a jerk and a hypocrite. She's been going on and on about how she needs to be called Seven, then calls Data a robot despite knowing full well his name.

Picard: Your raising Jack so well allowed him to resist the Borg influence so long!

Crusher: Yes, how convenient he only broke after a bunch of Section 31 super-changelings already just weaponized our transporters to assimilate everyone!

Picard: ...
 
Yistaan said:
Same. It's as bad as I thought when I first heard rumors this big bad was going to be a Borg thing and I was hoping it wasn't--this episode literally confirmed my fears. This episode put someone I was watching with just now more or less off Trek despite her liking the older TOS episodes. Here it's all grimdark horror story violence. She pointed out this was even worse than the Mandalorian, which is saying a lot.

And even me, a long time Trekkie for all of Trek's incarnations (except Lower Decks) can't help seeing plotholes big enough to fly a starship through. So Locutus had extra special DNA to control other drones? Funny because that might've been really useful for Picard to have to control Borg he was fighting in practically every encounter with them after BOBW, particularly First Contact. Ok so it was a seed? How the hell did the Borg know that Locutus would escape and more importantly how could they have predicted him reproducing? The Borg knew everything Picard knew, which as of the time of his assimilation was an old guy married to his job with literally no realistic romantic/family prospects. That's also assuming Picard would never use even 21st century level birth control here. This plan falls apart unless the Borg literally know the future.

The "catch" that only younger than 25 year old human (or human equivalent apparently) can be assimilated by this DNA is so nonsensical I don't even know where to begin. I guess the Borg line up their battle plans with real world tv show revivals.

So Locutus is so extra special that only he got this DNA, even though it makes more sense to put this special DNA into younger drones who escape like B'elanna, Seven, etc. (And remember there's like a whole community of ex-Borg out there so the Borg should've put this DNA in all of them because the chances of them reproducing was a hell of a lot higher than Picard's). Oh wait what? This DNA can actually be just implanted onto people via transport? I thought Picard's DNA was the controller signal? But now putting it into transporter victims suddenly makes them the receiver signal? This "logic" is all falling apart. So actually the Borg could've just infiltrated Starfleet and beamed their special DNA into everyone decades ago. Why didn't they? Even M'Benga was reprogramming transporters way back when. How lucky for them that Section 31 conveniently made a bunch of super-changelings that are better at evading detection that JUST SO happen to also decide to team up with the Borg and help by impersonating transporter operators. The amount of contrived incidents keep piling on.

I guess Vadic's boss is irrelevant even though he must be a Borg who apparently doesn't act or talk like any Borg before or since, including the Borg seen in this episode.

Shelby's death is the sort of "dying like a punk" scene that Sam Jackson insisted be avoided for Mace Windu over at that other star franchise.

Let's not even get into the absurdity of a ship that's meant to be crewed by hundreds being crewed by a total of 7, all on the bridge, into combat against a Borg armada. Even Scotty noted when the 1701, crewed by a handful in Search for Spock, met just one Klingon ship and was like "I didn't think I'd be taking her into combat, you know!"

I feel sorry for all the new Trek actors who signed up for Picard thinking this was going to lead to a future of continuing spinoffs etc. Isa Briones and Evan Evagora are extraordinarily lucky their characters survived what can only be described as the "Picard show new character bloodbath". I'd say Michelle Hurd too but there's still one episode left.
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I think the 25 and under concept is a strong critique of our population that is 25 and under, a lost generation with little motivation and direction. Only the older generation has a change to correct the massive overreach ( borg virus ) in our current society. And the same apparent in Picard.
 
Good Golly Miss Molly, that Enterprise-D set is gorgeous. I watched Generations four hours ago and it felt like the lighting was similar! Fuck me, I hope Geordie is also restoring the Enterprise-E, that was also a thing of beauty! Let Worf have the Enterprise-E again, goddamn it!

When the Enterprise-F came out and damned near clapped. Look at him, look at my large adult son! Gorgeous. I hope the Big Boy gets more action.
 
Hey, if you want an out for Beverly Crusher, fetus Jack's Borg transmissions must have subtly been influencing her to keep Jack sequestered so as to prevent his being discovered as a Trojan horse-to-be.
 
Did kind of like that though Picard lost his nerve around Hugh and the Borg-destroying virus, they had no problem sending one right back at him.
 
Ronin'sCreamyCandle said:
I think the 25 and under concept is a strong critique of our population that is 25 and under, a lost generation with little motivation and direction. Only the older generation has a change to correct the massive overreach ( borg virus ) in our current society. And the same apparent in Picard.
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I believe I read once that Avery Brooks (yes that Avery Brooks) said something like "It's up to the young people to fix the world that our generation has messed up". Having had parents who were pretty full of themselves, insisted their age and supposed experience made them know everything about everything, it's only now as I'm getting to the age they were when I was a kid (I'm almost 40 now) that I realize how full of it they were (and unfortunately still are).
 
firehawk12 said:
I'm still in the 'this is fine' group I guess. It's still better than the first two seasons, but I'd still rate all the other new shows higher than these 9 episodes. Here's hoping the finale delivers on all the hype.
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I think it's more interesting what they did with the Bog in Seasons 1/2. But I suppose it makes sense that the Borg Queen from Voyager's series finale would be lying in wait. And the BQ we saw for more of Season 2 wasn't the same, and neither is Jurati, so...

Wait a sec. I just remembered. Didn't the Borg Queen die in Endgame with the alternate Janeway? lol

#fanservice

At least Season 2 had the balls to kill off Q of all characters...
 
Well that was a very underwhelming reveal. I don’t get why Troi would be so horrified about a Cube.
All I could think about at the end was that Voyager episode when the Doctor daydreams. The takeover was so much like that. Shame they didn’t have the hyposprays. :)
 
Ronin'sCreamyCandle said:
I think the 25 and under concept is a strong critique of our population that is 25 and under, a lost generation with little motivation and direction. Only the older generation has a change to correct the massive overreach ( borg virus ) in our current society. And the same apparent in Picard.
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If that's the case, gross. I'm in my 40s now, and find these generational divisions to be silly. I hope I never become the old man who thinks the youngsters are all lost "nowadays".
 
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