That is very (deliberately?) ambiguous about the 'real borg', and it still leaves room for something Locutus-y.
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That is very (deliberately?) ambiguous about the 'real borg', and it still leaves room for something Locutus-y.
There MAY have been another one. But I think that's the main "it's not the borg" post. It's ambiguous about the Delta Quadrant "real Borg" to be sure, but I think it's a safe bet they're not in this story. But that says nothing about Locutus. Could easily be him.
Just as much, Matalas is clever and likes to throw curveballs. He'd know Locutus would be what we're all guessing, so it could just as easily be a Red Herring.
Jack is the new Borg King named Locutus who is trying to start a new collective.
And the first one he'll assimilate is Shaw and turn Shaw into what he hates most
And the first one he'll assimilate is Shaw and turn Shaw into what he hates most
Shaw will become Nocutus
Agree on this. But the whole mystery box of this season is not making a lick of sense so it's understandable people are reaching for conclusions.
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So ... was that the reason Q sent the Enterprise to meet the Borg? So that the Borg would become curious about the Federation and could later discover whatever Starfleet mistook as Irumodic Syndrome in Picard? Something that the Borg were so interested in that they wanted to make Picard the Borg King? Maybe the Borg enhanced that something with their nanoprobes, but it only became active with Jack. The telepathic abilities could be a Vulcan thing, so maybe Sarek left a bit auf Bendii Syndrome in Picard? I know the mind meld happened after "Q Who", but to Q it would be all the same.
The question is, what would the Borg want with Jack's telepathic abilities? They surely have assimilated telepathic beings before, if not entire telepathic races. Is there even more to Jack's abilities than we have already seen?
Another thing I can't stop thinking about ... how did Shaw know about what happened - or should I say not happened - in the Devron System? If this wasn't the last season and if this last season hadn't gotten universal praise from those who have already seen it, I'd say nothing we're seeing this season is real. Holodeck or dream or whatever ... but I guess that's hopefully out of the question.
The question is, what would the Borg want with Jack's telepathic abilities? They surely have assimilated telepathic beings before, if not entire telepathic races. Is there even more to Jack's abilities than we have already seen?
Another thing I can't stop thinking about ... how did Shaw know about what happened - or should I say not happened - in the Devron System? If this wasn't the last season and if this last season hadn't gotten universal praise from those who have already seen it, I'd say nothing we're seeing this season is real. Holodeck or dream or whatever ... but I guess that's hopefully out of the question.
Oh yeah, I don't exactly buy it either. I've thought through it a lot. Every potential adversary we know of from Trek lore has some upside but some problem. And usually the problem boils down to "how do you explain this in just 2 hours in a way that isn't messy?"
Locutus being ancient or something and persisting in Picard organically and now trying to start some kind of Organic Borg or something is a flawed theory. But it answers questions and has fewer problems than the alternatives. But in the end, we need to remember, the reveal almost doesn't matter, because it only serves to drive the 1701D crew to action in one final adventure. The finale being about the reveal, while enticing, is the wrong way to look at it.
While flipping through TNG episodes on the treadmill an hour ago, I came across "Sarek". This occured to me too.
Picard's head has been messed with a lot. By Sarek. By the Borg. By the Kataan probe Becoming a synth. I'm sure I missed some. Maybe they all mixed together to make something new and terrible.
This of course, explains nothing about Jack.
Except Troi said she sensed something ancient and terrible.
It's Masaka isn't it.
In ST:TMP, the Voyager VI probe emerged from a black hole on the far side of the galaxy and encountered a planet of living machines. When the Borg first appeared on ST:TNG, there was speculation of a connection between them and this planet of living machines. Although not considered cannon, this idea re-surfaced in the Star Trek: Legacy video game. Perhaps in the finale of Picard, Terry Matalas will finally make that connection cannon. Perhaps those on the planet of living machines are the ancient and terrible something Troi sensed.
In some of the visions I thought I saw Terminator 2-style city destruction in red? Maybe time to call in th Zhat Vash?
It's Worf's erection.
It's Worf's erection.
That would be brilliant. Big reveal and a song to wrap it all up nicely.
Oh my god I was wrong.
It was Shaw all along.
You finally made a Mugato out of me.
Fixed that for you.
Here is a link to my preliminary take on this seasons arc:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/season-3-wild-speculation.311374/page-72#post-14422068
My initial hypothesis regarding the season 3 conspiracy narrative, including the potential collusion of Captain Shaw and Ro Laren, was seemingly flawed. The current trajectory of the story has diverged significantly from my projections, and as such, I must concede that I was likely mistaken.
We still have two episodes left though, so who knows.
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Haha.
Remember when I pointed out that Terry's line about "Forget that crap on the Stargazer, the Real Borg are out there" was an insult towards the Jurati nonsense of Season 2... yeah.
Marvelous. He is very specific in the language he uses.
I'll say this.
According to Dave Cullen, it's not the Borg as seen in Star Trek Armada;
However, I still theorize that the Borg fit into this final piece of the puzzle. It just works so well.
Afraid not. Time comes for us all.
Yes. And the opinion is no less tedious from repetition.
Where, exactly, did earlier seasons of PIC hurt you?
I don't like this guy at all, especially his bit about Troi's line about the Changeling being good at sex. He does understand she was joking... right? He's not that literal-minded, is he?
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