Spoilers Who is the mastermind in Season 3 of Picard?
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That’s the part I’m stuck on. I was trying to think of who would disturb Troi so much. It almost made me believe the Armus theory just because she seems so viscerally upset.
Wasn't it you who said they had spoilers about E9 and E10?
I do know how it ends (just the final battle and the characters who appear), I just kept myself in the dark about the Jack thing. No idea about Jack. No spoilers on him.
I'm theorizing it's Locutus and The Borg just based on how it fits narratively, and how it works as a conclusion to 90s-Era Star Trek.
And that the average casual viewer could potentially watch Ep9/10 and know about the Borg stuff without much exposition.
As soon as I saw Red Eyes and these Hive mind powers, I was thinking Borg.
If it ends up being something completely different, I'm open to being surprised.
I'm theorizing it's Locutus and The Borg just based on how it fits narratively, and how it works as a conclusion to 90s-Era Star Trek.
And that the average casual viewer could potentially watch Ep9/10 and know about the Borg stuff without much exposition.
As soon as I saw Red Eyes and these Hive mind powers, I was thinking Borg.
If it ends up being something completely different, I'm open to being surprised.
Okedokee, I understand.
I apologize if that came off as accusatory in tone, it was unintended.
Lol, no tone detected.
Anyway, with two episodes left.. I'm not sure what else it could be. Pah-Wraiths would require too much exposition.
The other interesting thing about The Borg is it potentially resolves Shaw's arc. It would seem weird to give Shaw that Wolf 359 PTSD if there's no resolution for it.
Anyway, with two episodes left.. I'm not sure what else it could be. Pah-Wraiths would require too much exposition.
The other interesting thing about The Borg is it potentially resolves Shaw's arc. It would seem weird to give Shaw that Wolf 359 PTSD if there's no resolution for it.
His comment about the "real Borg still being out there" still lingers for me
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I think that was probably supposed to remind the audience of that encounter for how Riker decrypts Crusher’s coordinates based on the Borg cyber-attack.
It's not the Borg. Matalas said in a tweet reply after Episode 1, that the villain this season is not the Borg. We should take him at his word on this.
However this does NOT rule out the personality, memories identity of Locutus - who maybe he is originally something ancient that the Borg assimilated and in the 2360s, grafted onto Picard, or a copy of Picard's psyche, warped and twisted, that became an independent entity over the last 32 years.
Of all the options put forward, Locutus in some form (one of the two options above, probably option 1) makes the most sense but reportedly, all the fan theories are wrong. So we'll see.
Whoever it is, the reveal isn't the point. The TNG cast being together is.
However this does NOT rule out the personality, memories identity of Locutus - who maybe he is originally something ancient that the Borg assimilated and in the 2360s, grafted onto Picard, or a copy of Picard's psyche, warped and twisted, that became an independent entity over the last 32 years.
Of all the options put forward, Locutus in some form (one of the two options above, probably option 1) makes the most sense but reportedly, all the fan theories are wrong. So we'll see.
Whoever it is, the reveal isn't the point. The TNG cast being together is.
It would also give Shaw resolution with Picard and Seven, if he has to team up with them to fight Locutus.
Whatever it is also has to be somehow capable of genetically passing on to Jack, and evolving thereafter. If it's Locutus, that seems...rather dubious. Then again, there aren't any other obvious options which would make sense either.
People keep saying this but I haven't seen him say this. Do you have a link?
Probably too in the weeds for ST:P, but we know from Voyager, that being assimilated alters your DNA from our "base" species. (Seven of Nine's biosignature reads as Borg, not human). Assimilation is largely a technological process, but not exclusively. We also know form the Seven saving Neelix's life that assimilation enables a powerful biological response. Basically a Borg is supercharged biologically and technologically. We just focus on the technological most times.
If it's Locutus (which is my bet, because it's the most logical, but probably wrong), it's probably something like this:
-The Borg assimilated some ancient conqueror named Locutus in the Delta Quadrant long ago and stored his persona - like all assimilated data - within the hive mind.
-For some reason, wanting to put a face on their campaign against the Federation (which they never did in any other assimilation), they grafted this persona on Picard. In combination with Picard's experience, it made a better Locutus, this time "of Borg".
-When Locutus of Borg was disconnected from the collective (when the Cube self destructed), the Locutus persona retreated to the depths of Picard's brain.
-Doctor Crusher managed to remove the mechanical components, but the state of knowledge about Borg cybernetics was limited until Voyager, so the changes deep to his DNA went unnoticed.
-Locutus hung out there, dormant, for many years. It's dormancy was misdiagnoses as Irmuodic Syndrome.
-When Picard had a son, that DNA was passed to Jack Crusher. Jack would be an ideal host to Locutus because every aspect of his DNA has been formed for him to use.It is basically the human half of the Borg.
-Locutus began to emerge in 2399 and fully emerged when Picard died. He would have replaced Picard's persona, but Picard had his mind moved to a new body. Locutus was stuck in Picard's old body, at Daystrom.
-Locutus is able to mess with Vadic and communicate through her because the experimentation on her used Borg technology, which Locutus knows how to control. There were still nanoprobes (or borg cells) within Vadic. But for two years, he had been plotting using the changelings as his hands, while he was locked away until the Changelings raided the station.
-Locutus is going to use the networked ships at frontier day to destroy Earth.
-Jack his his life boat for when he succeeds. Alternatively, Jack's mental abilities play a role in controlling those ships. Maybe to tell the crews to "sleep" in an ironic twist on BoBW so he can control the ships.
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