Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x07 - "Dominion"

[SJGardner]

Frikkin android compatibility. That’s why I use Apple robots. It just works!

Apple iDroids are notorious for requiring whole replacement body parts for minor component failures. And they need proprietary data ports, you can't just plug them into a standard Starfleet issue isolinear one. The adapters are ridiculously overpriced and on a subscription basis, you have to pay a slip of latinum every month, otherwise they just lock you out permanently. I'd rather stick to the good old, reliable and versatile Soong-type, bug-ridden as they are.

 

[StewMc]

Getting to see deleted scenes is lovely, but they don't count as being part of canon.
As far as the actualy story of NEMESIS goes, the chip is gone for good.

Now if PICARD Season-3 ends up doing a retcon of that, then all bets are off.

To be fair Insurrection stated that he “didn’t take it with him” to Ba’ku, indicating the chip was removable again, and since Data showed no emotions in Nemesis, it could go either way whether he had the chip installed at the time of his death.

 

[Photoman15]

Makes literally zero sense when you consider Picard's reaction to her history. "I didn't know." And he stresses that line... pure empathy and yet a minute later they're debating whether they should kill her or not. And they fire at her.

Picard and Crusher hit Gooey-Vadic a few times as she slimed away and up the tube. Their phasers were not set to kill.

 

[JoseNoodles]

it’s not public: they found it in the project manifest that was stored inside Data.

That's what I figure, but I don't think they made it sufficiently clear in the dialogue.

 

[Cortez]

Picard and Crusher hit Gooey-Vadic a few times as she slimed away and up the tube. Their phasers were not set to kill.

Ah yeah, they powered up their phasers while talking about their moral compasses getting compromised and that death was present the moment they invited Vadic aboard, and then walked in front of her like a firing squad.

 

[Photoman15]

That's what I figure, but I don't think they made it sufficiently clear in the dialogue.

Beverly says exactly that as she's accessing the manifest they got from Data

 

[Soong-type Android]

I respect Plummers performance but the writing falters since Vadic did not explain how she (it) managed to escape from Daystrom in the first place. Given the security measures we saw in Ep 6 I find it doubtful she was able to escape without at least inside help from one starfleet official.

Just accept it happened...somehow. Best not to think about it too much.

 

[Campe]

Apple iDroids are notorious for requiring whole replacement body parts for minor component failures. And they need proprietary data ports, you can't just plug them into a standard Starfleet issue isolinear one. The adapters are ridiculously overpriced and on a subscription basis, you have to pay a slip of latinum every month, otherwise they just lock you out permanently.

Hilarious. And with the exception of the subscription, largely accurate.

 

[Photoman15]

Ah yeah, they powered up their phasers while talking about their moral compasses getting compromised and that death was present the moment they invited Vadic aboard, and then walked in front of her like a firing squad.

How do YOU know what level they set the phasers for? The speech was MEANT for Vadic to hear. From the beginning, before Picard came in, they were playing Good Cop/Bad Cop. It was a setup.

 

[Cortez]

Just accept it happened...somehow. Best not to think about it too much.

I'd imagine the very same words were uttered in this seasons writers' room.

 

[jackoverfull]

I don’t know why people keep bringing up the emotion chip when Datalore is in a new body and all developed androids in Picard clearly have shown emotions.

 

[Racefuel]

To be fair Insurrection stated that he “didn’t take it with him” to Ba’ku, indicating the chip was removable again, and since Data showed no emotions in Nemesis, it could go either way whether he had the chip installed at the time of his death.

A deleted scene for Nemesis, where Geordi and Worf are packing Data’s quarters after his death on the Scimitar, shows he did not have it installed at the end. Geordi picks it up from its little holder area and I think it’s implied Data did it suspecting it was going to come to that

 

[fireproof78]

Stopping a war?

By nuking the entire planet?

Of course he is, but not a prisoner in cold blood.

As long as Vadic is a threat they have a responsibility to end it. Changelings as prisoners are still dangerous. There is nothing cold blooded here.

 

[jackoverfull]

By nuking the entire planet?

what are you referring to?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Jack Burton

Honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that, it’s all in the reflexes.

 

[drt]

Picard and Crusher hit Gooey-Vadic a few times as she slimed away and up the tube. Their phasers were not set to kill.

It's hard to say what they were set for, Vadic's henchman was phasered a half-dozen times with no effect, presumably by phasers set to kill. It's arguable phasers have minimal effect unless the Changeling is disintegrated.

 

[fireproof78]

what are you referring to?

General Order 24.

 

[Cortez]

How do YOU know what level they set the phasers for? The speech was MEANT for Vadic to hear. From the beginning, before Picard came in, they were playing Good Cop/Bad Cop. It was a setup.

What set up? The good cop/bad cop was a ploy that Vadic mentioned from the very start, not them. She immediately saw through Crusher and than proceeded to tell them that she'll basically stop at nothing, with Picard and Crusher become increasingly deflated. There's nothing to discuss at that point. They say as much while powering up their phasers. They were fully intent on killing her.

 

[TRON JA307020]

It wasn't even in TNG. The utopia tended to only exist within the confines of the Enterprise. Outside of it, there were conspiracies, cover-ups, murderous captains, an endless series of "Badmirals", forced relocations of civilians...

But the captains of the Enterprise have always been better than these Admirals and captains that have gone bad in the past. Kirk was always angry and upset when he found out a captain had gone bad out in the field. Same with Captain Picard. Picard has cross the line in this episode. Just because it's his son is no excuse to outright execute somebody. If Starfleet was involved in the torture and if they sanctioned section 31 to do this then it's not the changeling's fault. I'm sorry to say it but Q was right about Humaty and picards moralizing speeches were total BS now.

 

[fireproof78]

Humanity was not evolved. It had a choice.

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