Could Vadic and her fellow captive changelings have been some of the 100? That could technically be a loophole, since they like Odo weren't actually a part of the Dominion.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x07 - "Dominion"
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The musical themes of the previous two seasons, while nicely done, would be a poor fit for this season's love letter to Trek from the 80's and 90's. The direct porting in of the older themes as well as the homages work well for me.
You'd think Daystrom would use holographic technicians to work on biomatter samples instead of actual people who could be compromised. Sheesh!
It's the same mentality that Geordi holds when it comes to servicing Lata without a sandbox.
It's the same mentality that Geordi holds when it comes to servicing Lata without a sandbox.
"The Inner Light Suite" as a construct is not a composition but an arrangement, and this is sort of artificial distinction here. The suite as arranged was not made for the episode but for the album that it was on.
It is much more than just a few notes. They are not 100% identical but they are close enough to be considered the same thing unequivocally. Source: I work in this field.
But it wasn't, it was an arrangement of the Batai flute theme for a new medium, just like the Inner Light Suite was an arrangement for a new medium.
This is very subjective!
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I wager we're going to continue disagreeing on this.
Right! We already have Space Cannibal Hitler and now S31 is or employs Mengele. No Thanks.
It absolutely is.
Section 31 created a virus that was intended to kill all the Changlings, they had to have developed it somewhere, somehow, based on experiements on Changlings.
When the cards are down and the situation is dire, desperate people do desperate things.
Like murdering a Romulan senator and covering it up, directly leading to hundreds of thousands if not millions of additional deaths in a war simply because you needed them on your side instead.
Fair enough!
Kirk and Picard represent an idolized version of Star Trek. Since those two series were our first exposures to Starfleet, that would skew our impressions. Every series from DS9 on has shown some kind of wrinkle. Of course, it's not a coincidence that every series from DS9 on was also made after Gene Roddenberry died, but still. I think the image Starfleet wants to project is just an image.
That's ultimately why Starfleet Command viewed Kirk as a maverick who they kept trying to put behind a desk. Not just in the TOS Movies, but as far back as "Court Martial". Commodore Stone was really quick to say, "Let's give you a ground assignment instead!"
It's also why Picard left Starfleet. It ultimately wasn't what he thought it was. In fact, I think Starfleet was willing to keep Picard a Captain as long as they did because they realized he was too moral for his own good, so they didn't want him gaining any more influence than he already had. And they probably learned their lesson about Kirk. Admiral Nacheyev, to me, represents a more normal higher-up. Including when she lays it out bare to Picard in "Descent" and tells him, "The next time you see an opportunity to wipe out the Borg, you're ordered to take advantage of it."
That's ultimately why Starfleet Command viewed Kirk as a maverick who they kept trying to put behind a desk. Not just in the TOS Movies, but as far back as "Court Martial". Commodore Stone was really quick to say, "Let's give you a ground assignment instead!"
It's also why Picard left Starfleet. It ultimately wasn't what he thought it was. In fact, I think Starfleet was willing to keep Picard a Captain as long as they did because they realized he was too moral for his own good, so they didn't want him gaining any more influence than he already had. And they probably learned their lesson about Kirk. Admiral Nacheyev, to me, represents a more normal higher-up. Including when she lays it out bare to Picard in "Descent" and tells him, "The next time you see an opportunity to wipe out the Borg, you're ordered to take advantage of it."
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I think it's more like it's probably been a while for them.
When I re-watched "What We Leave Behind" last night, I'd forgotten that Kira and Garak were concerned about Odo curing The Female Shapeshifter, and I'm dead sure he never told that plan to Sisko. The Federation was willing to let the Founders die.
Wonder if they made some female ones.
The Federation was willing to let the Founders die, they were willing to 100%, no exceptions, wipe out the Borg. A large faction were willing and wanting to see the Klingons crippled in TUC, only some of them engaged in conspiracy to get there.
Uhura and others "felt the same as Valeris" which means they sympathized with the people wanting to cripple the Klingons as a species.
Its probably been a while, true, but the Dominion War brought out *a lot* of dark traits in our favorite characters.
Really? I always thought it was said. Must be me getting the novels and canon mixed up.
She was barely showing when we last saw her in WWLB
Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.
I thought Bashir told her the sex. It’s been a while since I saw the episode. Waiting for the remaster
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Agreed. I mean, this wasn't "I do this job with a heavy heart, knowing what might have to be done" kind of thing, this was a "I love my job so much I whistle while I work, and that work involves taking sentient beings and torturing the shit out of them day and night with medical experiments."
