Worf said that Odo told him that a group of changelings split off from the great link, they probably went back and found others to join them.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x07 - "Dominion"
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This is kind of every show though? The music for the intros and end credits (when they even exist) are fixed and independent of the story. It would probably be prohibitively expensive to record opening and closing themes that are dramatically compatible with a a given episode.
I really struggled to enjoy this week, sorry but it barely makes the 5/10 mark, Tuvok and the Geordi/DataLore scenes saved it somewhat.
How the hell Picard and Bev MISSED Vadic is beyond me and comes across as sloppy.
With Data hooked up to the ship, he could very easily have beamed Vadic and co. back to the Shrike and returned access to the crew. A needless takeover that could have been solved instantly.
The complete lack of Worf, Riker and Troi is a letdown, although I still couldn't care less about Raffi.
I am, however, still maintaining enthusiasm for next week but out of 7 episodes so far, we get this?
I'm not upset, just very disappointed, expecting big things next week.
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How the hell Picard and Bev MISSED Vadic is beyond me and comes across as sloppy.
With Data hooked up to the ship, he could very easily have beamed Vadic and co. back to the Shrike and returned access to the crew. A needless takeover that could have been solved instantly.
The complete lack of Worf, Riker and Troi is a letdown, although I still couldn't care less about Raffi.
I am, however, still maintaining enthusiasm for next week but out of 7 episodes so far, we get this?
I'm not upset, just very disappointed, expecting big things next week.
Out.
Wow, that was simply terrible. A chore to watch from beginning to end. I was screaming in my head „when is it finally over“. Vadic was getting on my nerves right from the start and there was just too much of her in that episode. Also Picard and Beverly in particular and Starfleeters in general are now worse shots than Stormtroopers. And great idea to let Lore take over the ship, you morons. Haven‘t you learned anything from your prior interactions? And what good would a Picard doppelganger do when he is a fugitive.
I‘m so glad it‘s over I don‘t even care what that whole thing with the Vulcan cruiser was all about.
I‘m so glad it‘s over I don‘t even care what that whole thing with the Vulcan cruiser was all about.
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For that matter, when Lore was in control, why didn't he just beam Geordi's daughter and Jack into space? Or maybe he was trying to do that and Data was fighting him the whole time?
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No, this is different because they're using music not designed for this show, in fact it replaced the music from this show, the music tailored for this show, and bookended the show with theme music from Star Trek: First Contact. It does not fit, and is thematically jarring.
"Memorial" suggests a maintained area, which would make it hard to hide in.
Still haven't achieve the heights of "Twilight," where everyone looks on at horror at the burning, shattered remains of Earth, and we go into the inexplicably extra-peppy version of "Faith of the Heart."
You know, Goldilocks didn't just find things in sets of two in the bears' house, and had to commit to whether she wanted the porridge that was too hot or too cold.
Lore's a dick. He wants to enjoy people suffering. Killing people as quickly as he can is boring.
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Yeah, that's hard to beat.
The thing is, I've heard the actual ENT theme music they intended to use, and it sounded terrific. I wish they would have kept it for more than just the exit music of the series.
Is it different though? Regardless of their source these are the opening and closing themes. It’s the function that matters.
I miss the opening from S1 and S2 which wasn’t original to the show either (it’s an orchestral arrangement of what Batai plays on the flute in The Inner Light).
Another poster talked about ENT and how that was jarring too sometimes. This is an industry thing, not just a Trek or PIC thing.
For some episodes it would be fine, and for this particular one there was a thematic mismatch.
Oh? Where can I find such a thing?Yeah, that's hard to beat.
The thing is, I've heard the actual ENT theme music they intended to use, and it sounded terrific. I wish they would have kept it for more than just the exit music of the series.
Edit: found it. I had wondered about the end credits music. It always felt much more "Star Trek" to me.
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Yes.
It functions poorly in context, as the theme from First Contact wasn't adapted for Picard except to be slapped on each end of the episode.
It's been a thematic mismatch since the first episode of season 3.
Especially fitting with Frakes having played a character called Xanatos on Gargoyles back in the day...which I have just realised (according to TV Tropes) is the origination of the term
Maybe. I'm not sure. I think the darkness of the production design really does a number on my head. It bugs me that all these people seem to live in perpetual ambient darkness. Human beings need light to thrive. I'm just having a lot of trouble with this season, I admit. I haven't given a single episode a rating higher than 7. I love Captain Shaw, I love Seven, but seeing Data just filled me with Fremdschämen. I want to embrace it all but...
I guess what I’m asking you is what should the closing credits sound like, if not that? The FC theme is slow, elegiac and thoughtful, but it’s in a major key mostly so it has a brightness to it. Then it transitions to the Goldsmith TMP/TNG theme (which wasn’t originally going to be used for TNG).
Are you looking for something darker? In minor? What would good ending music sound like to you?
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The original theme, which was present in seasons 1 and 2 fit the overall theme of the series because it was written and composed for this series. The First Contact theme being shoehorned in place with no regard for the thematic content of the series is jarring.
I love that music a lot! But the Inner Light theme shares a lot of musical characteristics with the FC theme. So I’m not sure how it’s jarring. If they used that we’d still hear a lyrical, mostly major key tune at approx 76 beats per minute. The inner light theme uses cello, and the FC theme uses horn, which are pretty close in frequency/pitch range.
Why is the inner light theme less jarring? Is it maybe that you just like it better? Which is fine!
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The music was composed by Jeff Russo for the series, there's flute and piccolo in it, which likely callbacks to The Inner Light, but this is not the Inner Light Suite. As I said, the First Contact theme is just shoehorned in without any consideration for how it matches thematically. The effect is jarring.
I love the First Contact theme, but if you just cram it into a series because "hey this is from a movie people loved!" without tailoring it for a proper fit, you get a compositional mess, and that's what we get.
