Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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The sucky thing is The Falcon and the Winter Soldier would have been a pretty decent Captain America 4 if they edited it down.
And had the guts to follow through and make Walker the villain.
Ah, yes, the pronouncements about the quality of New World Order before we even know the plot of the film!
You mean like how there was no confidence in Winter Soldier so that's why they added Black Widow and Nick Fury to it?
Not really. They were just logical choices since Cap was working for SHIELD. Plus Widow had a part in the Winter Soldier story in the comic.
And the US President being involved in Cap story isn't a logical choice?
Fury and Black Widow were among the more naturally connected MCU characters appearing in a genuine Cap movie (as opposed to the circus that was the 20% good / 80% bad Civil War).
Didn't realise the movie was actually already shooting.
So whose funeral is it? If this is from the end of the movie I'm guessing General, sorry President Ross dies after becoming the Red Hulk.
So whose funeral is it? If this is from the end of the movie I'm guessing General, sorry President Ross dies after becoming the Red Hulk.
Vox's Aja Romano has written an excellent article that goes into the complicated details of the Jonathan Majors allegations and his possible abusive past and present, which also covers how “deny, attack, and reverse victim/offender" (DARVO) and race factor into the reporting of these allegations.
Of particular note:
The whole article is worth spending a few minutes to read.
Of particular note:
Shortly after the news of Majors’s arrest broke, social media began buzzing with anecdotal reports that Majors, who received a master’s in drama from Yale, had a long and well-known history of abusive behavior in both the Yale and New York theater scenes. Social media users recalled a since-deleted tweet made in February by filmmaker and director’s assistant A.B. Allen. “There’s a particular actor, relatively new on the scene, who Twitter has violently fallen head over heels for,” Allen wrote, “who, in actuality, is a vicious, cruel, abusive human being, both professionally and in his personal life, and every new viral thirst tweet about him drives me insane.”
After the news about Majors broke, Allen appeared to confirm (again in a since-deleted tweet) that the earlier tweet referred to Majors. Allen then clarified that they had known Majors to be “emotionally violent/professionally abusive” but not physically violent.
In addition to Allen, actor and stage director Tim Nicolai was even more pointed, alleging in a since-deleted tweet that “folks at Yale and the broader NYC community have known about [Majors] for years.”
“He’s a sociopath and abuser and that is how virtually everyone speaks about him,” Nicolai stated. “It’s a shame it took this long for him to be reported.”
Neither Allen nor Nicolai provided specific allegations of things Majors had done. When asked by multiple social media users why neither of them came forward before this to warn the public about him, both Allen and Nicolai pointed toward their unwillingness to name and involve the people they say Majors harmed. Both have since made their Twitter accounts private.
After the news about Majors broke, Allen appeared to confirm (again in a since-deleted tweet) that the earlier tweet referred to Majors. Allen then clarified that they had known Majors to be “emotionally violent/professionally abusive” but not physically violent.
In addition to Allen, actor and stage director Tim Nicolai was even more pointed, alleging in a since-deleted tweet that “folks at Yale and the broader NYC community have known about [Majors] for years.”
“He’s a sociopath and abuser and that is how virtually everyone speaks about him,” Nicolai stated. “It’s a shame it took this long for him to be reported.”
Neither Allen nor Nicolai provided specific allegations of things Majors had done. When asked by multiple social media users why neither of them came forward before this to warn the public about him, both Allen and Nicolai pointed toward their unwillingness to name and involve the people they say Majors harmed. Both have since made their Twitter accounts private.
Far stronger leader? Sam is a trained and experienced former military officer.
He's supposed to be, but the films have not played up that part of his life / experience, other than Rogers deferring to Wilson for a strategy during the airport escape in Civil War.
Characters are not built by having them underdeveloped until they get some solo outing.
Sigh x 1000.
Sigh x 1000.
That was an interesting and even handed read. It'll be interesting to see what comes out of this. The only thing that did make me go WTF was this line:
I mean this has happened way too often.
If this did escalate you have to wonder what effect this will have on the MCU given Kang seems pretty pivotal to Phase 5.
I appreciate there's more important things at stake here than the MCU obviously!
Really, I'm surprised the MCU doesn't vet its actors more carefully before signing them to multi-year contracts. You'd think they'd run background checks as thorough as the CIA's, given the money at stake.
Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entertainment
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/business/media/disney-marvel-ike-perlmutter.html?smid=tw-share
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/business/media/disney-marvel-ike-perlmutter.html?smid=tw-share
Good riddance.
Who's going to fish paper clips out of rubbish bins so they can be reused now?
Yeah, that bit surprised me, too, especially considering people like Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, and Johnny Depp. Granted, they were all old mainstays and Majors is a recent rising star, but the climate has always been there for such behavior to fester.
With the same caveat of how this effects the MCU is small potatoes to the larger issues at play here, the way they've set up Kang (along with Loki) allows recasting more easily. Not that recasting has been an issue before.
If the social media anecdotes are to believed, his behavior has been an open a secret for a long time, much like other predators in Hollywood.
The core problem isn't that the MCU may not have done the due diligence, but rather they may have thought it wouldn't be an issue or something that couldn't be controlled.
Exhibit A: Ezra Miller.
That's a looooooong time coming! Just wish it happened 20 years ago. Alas.
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