Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Rich Watson]

Surprising DP3 casting news. Are they just planning on pretending that they were in the MCU all along?

https://deadline.com/2023/03/karan-soni-leslie-uggams-deadpool-1235312293/

 

[Noname On A Naughty List]

Marvel Entertainment Chairman Ike Perlmutter Out at Disney
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...HxfIpPEamT_0XpUU3vDfn2CltgcAfCnZH_xhdYXP03-uN

Isaac “Ike” Perlmutter, chairman of Marvel Entertainment, has been laid off at Disney. Marvel Entertainment will be folded into the larger Disney business units, a Disney spokesperson confirmed.

The move comes as Disney looks to eliminate 7,000 jobs in multiple rounds of layoffs that kicked off this week, in what CEO Bob Iger calls part of a “strategic realignment.”

Rob Grosser, a longtime third-party Marvel security consultant who is also considered to be Perlmutter’s fixer, is also out, according to two insiders with knowledge of the situation. In addition, Disney has terminated the employment of Rob Steffens, who served as co-president of Marvel Entertainment, and John Turitzin, who held the position of chief counsel for the same division...

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Surprising DP3 casting news. Are they just planning on pretending that they were in the MCU all along?

https://deadline.com/2023/03/karan-soni-leslie-uggams-deadpool-1235312293/

Maybe, maybe not.
As one of the two titles that routinely fourth wall break, all that’s needed is a line from Deadpool “does it make sense? No. Are we doing it anyway? Fuck, yes! Deal with it!”

 

[Commander Twinklylights]

Surprising DP3 casting news. Are they just planning on pretending that they were in the MCU all along?

https://deadline.com/2023/03/karan-soni-leslie-uggams-deadpool-1235312293/

I could see them doing that, probably with a wink or joke to the audience. "We've always been in the same universe as The Avengers. Really!"

 

[Commander Twinklylights]

Maybe, maybe not.
As one of the two titles that routinely fourth wall break, all that’s needed is a line from Deadpool “does it make sense? No. Are we doing it anyway? Fuck, yes! Deal with it!”

Yours is more likely than mine!

 

[The Scrooge Doctor]

Surprising DP3 casting news. Are they just planning on pretending that they were in the MCU all along?

https://deadline.com/2023/03/karan-soni-leslie-uggams-deadpool-1235312293/

I don't see what's so surprising about this casting news.

 

[Santa Kang]

I don't see what's so surprising about this casting news.

Yep, “Supporting characters from Deadpool series will appear in newest film” isn’t surprising at all.

 

[Anwar]

Characters are not built by having them underdeveloped until they get some solo outing.

Sigh x 1000.

Tell that to Wanda, Vision, Bucky, Hawkeye...

Oh and BTW everyone here are the first pictures of Harrison Ford as President Ross:

https://thedirect.com/article/harrison-ford-recast-marvel-character-photos

 

[Santa Kang]

Tell that to Wanda, Vision, Bucky, Hawkeye...

Oh and BTW everyone here are the first pictures of Harrison Ford as President Ross:

https://thedirect.com/article/harrison-ford-recast-marvel-character-photos

No moustache.

 

[Nightowl1701]

Ehhh, the mustache disappears when he becomes Red Hulk anyway. I can understand them sidestepping why it would mysteriously return when he changes back (if he even does in this film).

 

[Saul]

Tell that to Wanda, Vision, Bucky, Hawkeye...

Oh and BTW everyone here are the first pictures of Harrison Ford as President Ross:

https://thedirect.com/article/harrison-ford-recast-marvel-character-photos

To me that looks like Harrison on any day outside taking a walk.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Maybe, maybe not.
As one of the two titles that routinely fourth wall break, all that’s needed is a line from Deadpool “does it make sense? No. Are we doing it anyway? Fuck, yes! Deal with it!”

I could see them doing that, probably with a wink or joke to the audience. "We've always been in the same universe as The Avengers. Really!"

While its definitely possible they go that route I think its way more likely they don't. This is the multiverse saga after all. And even beyond that, why handwave it away with a single joke when you could do so much with Deadpool making fun of his new universe throughout the film?

The casting news also doesn't really tell us anything about the characters themselves. We could be looking at anything from a whole group of characters switching universes to Deadpool harassing the MCU version of these characters who have no idea who he is to the actors playing themselves because Weasel and Blind Al don't exist in that universe.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Tell that to Wanda, Vision, Bucky, Hawkeye...

Learn to understand what you're reading:

"Characters are not built by having them underdeveloped until they get some solo outing."

Bucky was developed in The First Avenger and The Winter Soldier/; he would not have the appeal / impact he's enjoyed if he was barely developed by the time of the Disney+ series. Work was put into making him a compelling character along the way--long before he earned a team-up series.

Hawkeye was another character with strong character-defining building blocks seen in the Avengers movies (shocking, considering the rest of the content). It did not take a solo streaming series to make him a fleshed-out character.

 

[Rich Watson]

I know Disney are facing major cutbacks but they could have bought a bit more green paint.

 

[Commander Twinklylights]

While its definitely possible they go that route I think its way more likely they don't. This is the multiverse saga after all. And even beyond that, why handwave it away with a single joke when you could do so much with Deadpool making fun of his new universe throughout the film?

The casting news also doesn't really tell us anything about the characters themselves. We could be
looking at anything from a whole group of characters switching universes to Deadpool harassing the MCU version of these characters who have no idea who he is to the actors playing themselves because Weasel and Blind Al don't exist in that universe.

Good points!

 

[Anwar]

Learn to understand what you're reading:

"Characters are not built by having them underdeveloped until they get some solo outing."

Bucky was developed in The First Avenger and The Winter Soldier/; he would not have the appeal / impact he's enjoyed if he was barely developed by the time of the Disney+ series. Work was put into making him a compelling character along the way--long before he earned a team-up series.

Hawkeye was another character with strong character-defining building blocks seen in the Avengers movies (shocking, considering the rest of the content). It did not take a solo streaming series to make him a fleshed-out character.

Bucky was not a very well developed character in either, we still don't know anything about his life before the war or who he was as a person then that he may want back. All he's defined by is his trauma as the Winter Soldier. We learned more about Sam and who he is as a person in Winter Soldier than we ever have learned about Bucky.

Hawkeye similarly didn't have anything in Avengers, we got a bit more fleshed out in Age of Ultron but that was it until Endgame.

Saying Sam is underdeveloped compared to that is foolish.

 

[Skywalker]

No moustache.

Maybe they'll CGI it on later.

 

[JD]

Disney Lays Off Ike Perlmutter, Chairman of Marvel Entertainment
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/business/media/disney-marvel-ike-perlmutter.html?smid=tw-share

I thought he left years ago?

 

[Turtletrekker]

I thought he left years ago?

Yeah, it's been close to 10 years since he's had anything to do with Marvel Studios. His influence was only over Marvel Entertainment.

 

[JD]

Oh, that was that whole thing where Marvel Studios spilt off and all that. I was thinking Perlmutter left when all that went down, I didn't realize he was still in charge of Marvel Entertainment.