Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x06 - "The Bounty"

[Tuskin38]

How could the Genesis Device be at Daystrom?

It said 'Genesis II' on the door.

 

[Gepard]

After a rewatch, I feel there's really two major decisions that drag this episode down:

1. The visit to the fleet museum being simultaneous to the infiltration of Daystrom
2. Geordi being all pissy and unhelpful initially

Point 1 places a frankly unnecessary ticking clock on the story, which strains credibility when the Titan has to zip around between star systems and install a cloaking device in under an hour, point 2 makes Geordi look like a jerk and, frankly is a beat the series has played multiple times already, and both points undermine the clear desire for a fun, lightweight breather episode.

A much better structure IMO would have placed them at the museum for the first half of the episode and at Dystrom for the second. That way we could have the light tone while Geordi et al (willingly) install the cloak, and then proper tension at Daystrom when things start to go wrong. If we need extra drama, have Geordi point out how old the cloak is, then it fails at Daystrom right when Starfleet shows up. Race against time to fix and get Riker and Worf off the station, etc. Maybe we could get a bit of a starship chase around the solar system during.

This is a perfect time for a breather episode, and all the fanservice says this is the fun lighthearted installment, so it's frustrating that the episode as aired undercuts itself.

 

[fireproof78]

Geordi struck me as far more believable this episode.

 

[drt]

A Pah Wraith would make sense if this was Star Trek: Sisko. Not sure how this would be relevant to Jean-Luc Picard.

Neither were Changelings. Season 3 has pretty much included all of Berman Trek and the 80s movies in its nostalgia.

I’d like to know what the threat is more than five minutes before it’s neutralized. Whatever it turns out to be at this point, it’s going to be an interesting threat for too short a time.

That would make it a standard episode of TNG, where it was pretty common they'd slowly build something up for forty minutes to the point you'd be convinced it was going to be a two-parter, and then they'd rapidly solve it in the last five. Back in the day, my buddies and I called it a "Star Trek ending" since it happened with some frequency.

 

[Racefuel]

After a rewatch, I feel there's really two major decisions that drag this episode down:

1. The visit to the fleet museum being simultaneous to the infiltration of Daystrom
2. Geordi being all pissy and unhelpful initially

Point 1 places a frankly unnecessary ticking clock on the story, which strains credibility when the Titan has to zip around between star systems and install a cloaking device in under an hour, point 2 makes Geordi look like a jerk and, frankly is a beat the series has played multiple times already, and both points undermine the clear desire for a fun, lightweight breather episode.

A much better structure IMO would have placed them at the museum for the first half of the episode and at Dystrom for the second. That way we could have the light tone while Geordi et al (willingly) install the cloak, and then proper tension at Daystrom when things start to go wrong. If we need extra drama, have Geordi point out how old the cloak is, then it fails at Daystrom right when Starfleet shows up. Race against time to fix and get Riker and Worf off the station, etc. Maybe we could get a bit of a starship chase around the solar system during.

This is a perfect time for a breather episode, and all the fanservice says this is the fun lighthearted installment, so it's frustrating that the episode as aired undercuts itself.

I get where you're coming from, while I don't agree, the observation is not from an unreasonable place.

About Geordi, thankfully they do address this when he apologizes to Sidney later on when getting ...whatever DataLoreSong is called now hooked up. He is, to apoint, addressing things in a meta sense because its also apologizing to the audience for him not behaving as we expected he would.

I adore Levar Burton as I grew up with Reading Rainbow being my afternoon fun since I was an only child in a rural area..and I think he wanted that moment of contrast.

 

[fireproof78]

That would make it a standard episode of TNG, where it was pretty common they'd slowly build something up for forty minutes to the point you'd be convinced it was going to be a two-parter, and then they'd rapidly solve it in the last five. Back in the day, my buddies and I called it a "Star Trek ending" since it happened with some frequency.

That's an apt description to it. I recall on my efforts to watch some TNG and it stood out in the "Ensigns of Command." We're struggling, we're struggling, facing all these barriers, and then "Boom!" solution.

 

[XCV330]

Didn't there used to be a fan theory that Ro was a Pah-wraith follower because she wore her earring on the other ear?

 

[Racefuel]

Geordi struck me as far more believable this episode.

He's a father and 22 years removed from when we last saw him in 2379, I didn't find him unbelievable either when he was grumpy or later on when he realized how he had changed and wasn't happy about it.

 

[Magistos]

Neither were Changelings. Season 3 has pretty much included all of Berman Trek and the 80s movies in its nostalgia.


That would make it a standard episode of TNG, where it was pretty common they'd slowly build something up for forty minutes to the point you'd be convinced it was going to be a two-parter, and then they'd rapidly solve it in the last five. Back in the day, my buddies and I called it a "Star Trek ending" since it happened with some frequency.

Perfect description.
Sometimes in the last 2 minutes or less - "Cause and Effect" comes to mind.

 

[Tuskin38]

It feels like there was a longer scene that was cut when Geordi hails the Titan. It's such an abrupt cut after Picard says they need help.

One of the unseen Daystrom station items was the gambling device from DS9:Rivals
https://twitter.com/KITST7LEN/status/1639349742747684866

 

[Yistaan]

Didn't there used to be a fan theory that Ro was a Pah-wraith follower because she wore her earring on the other ear?

I believe people also pointed out that Lt. Mura (the Asian Bajoran guy on Shaw's crew) also has his earring on the wrong ear? We've got a lot of pah wraith followers on this show...

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I enjoyed the episode, I won’t lie, but I did find it a case of fanwank overdrive. Less is more with the callbacks. If you have too many it reinforces that sense of small universe syndrome and the sense there’s not much outside of the stories and characters we happen to see. It also cheapens the writing to me if it’s done to an excess; and I felt this veered dangerously into the unrestrained exuberance of fanfic territory.

It was saved by some good character scenes, although while I’m largely delighted to see the TNG cast finally back together, I can’t say I’m entirely happy to have Data (kind of) back given what felt like a moving and conclusive send-off not two seasons ago.

I thought it was confirmed that Vadic’s crew were also Changelings? If so, we’ve come a VERY long way from the days of “No changeling has ever harmed another.” She’s utterly barking mad and I’ve still to decide whether I love or hate the character.

How could the Genesis Device be at Daystrom? There was only one and it was blown up by Khan.

Why the heck are people suddenly pronouncing Picard as Picarhhh? I’m sure I heard Riker do it as well as Vadic.

Would you prefer John Luck Pickard?

Picarhh is the proper French pronunciation.
And I don’t know about other countries, but the German dub has always had the d at the end silent. Pretty sure French dubs would also opt for actual French pronunciation.

And it wasn’t my impression that the family ever anglicized the name.

 

[fireproof78]

He's a father and 22 years removed from when we last saw him in 2379, I didn't find him unbelievable either when he was grumpy or later on when he realized how he had changed and wasn't happy about it.

And I think there is a lot of truth to it as well. I look back on myself, after having kids, and I'm far more cautious, far more disagreeable with people who have a cavalier attitude towards safety and how my family can participate. Having kids changes a person, at least in my experience. I am not so easy going any more.

 

[ananta]

It said 'Genesis II' on the door.

Didn’t notice that, thank you.

 

[Yistaan]

Would you prefer John Luck Pickard?

Picarhh is the proper French pronunciation.
And I don’t know about other countries, but the German dub has always had the d at the end silent. Pretty sure French dubs would also opt for actual French pronunciation.

And it wasn’t my impression that the family ever anglicized the name.

Poor Patrick, his most famous characters have foreign names that end up mispronounced on English television. I believe (could be wrong as I'm not fluent in Spanish) that Xavier should be pronounced like Kha-vier, not how they say it in the movies. I believe in Spanish dubs, since the "X" pronounciation is crucial to the X-Men theme of the character, they compromise and pronounce it Xah-vier, from what I read.

 

[ananta]

Would you prefer John Luck Pickard?

Picarhh is the proper French pronunciation.
And I don’t know about other countries, but the German dub has always had the d at the end silent. Pretty sure French dubs would also opt for actual French pronunciation.

And it wasn’t my impression that the family ever anglicized the name.

Dubs notwithstanding, people have pronounced the D ever since the character first appeared 35+ years ago. It was a legitimate observation, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Jag2112]

Screencaps gallery now online

https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sc-PIC3-6.php

 

[Deks]

Please submit your update to Starfleet Chief of Operations. Due to the collapse of the Romulan Empire and the Klingons as allies this operational instruction was removed. The Admiralty appreciates your concerns.

With respect to the Admiralty, that would not be a prudent course of action.
There are a number of ships out in space with access to a number of potentially dangerous technologies, and we had similar security breaches in the past that could have been avoided if the sensors were set to scan for those anomalies/threats from the get go.

 

[Racefuel]

From what I can read, since it's still blurry on Kirks panel..

"Starfleet officer James Tiberius Kirk (Serial number) was Captain of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701 on its historic five year (blurry) in 2265-2293 (?)". It goes on to discuss what I assume are various accolades. The last sentence looks like it discusses the events in Generations, assisting Captain Jean Luc Picard on Veridian III, his body was (something) by Project Phoenix.

Project Phoenix, tbh, sounds like a program to revive dead starfleet officers in synthetic bodies.

I could easily see this being how they manage to bring a de-aged Shatner-Kirk back and Denise Crosby as Tasha Yar

 

[fireproof78]

With respect to the Admiralty, that would not be a prudent course of action.
There are a number of ships out in space with access to a number of potentially dangerous technologies, and we had similar security breaches in the past that could have been avoided if the sensors were set to scan for those anomalies/threats from the get go.

Probably not. But, here's the difference:
Starfleet: much of the most prudent actions that real world uniformed services would take would reduce the adventures of the week by roughly 66%.

Star Trek: will ignore basic safety features for drama.