It was destroyed with the old Defiant. I doubt the Romulans gave Starfleet a new one.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x06 - "The Bounty"
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The Defiant in the museum is not the original one. The original one was destroyed in the Dominion War, and was probably the only one fitted with a Romulan cloaking device.
but, o quote Sisko himself: "I knew I forgot something..."
That was not about the cloak, was at the end when he brought Eddington in and Dax asked if he cleared his plan with Starfleet first.
It was never confirmed onscreen that Defiant 2.0 has a cloaking device, that I recall, after the Dominion destroyed its predecessor. If we don't know, maybe the characters dont' know either and didn't want to waste time trying to find out.
Just watched it. Yet another episode where I'm thinking "some nice ideas but could have been so much better".
It just feels 'off' - and I don't mean as some TNG nostalgia trip either, it's just that the writing just isn't quite there. It mostly lacks 'spark' and good pacing. I can see the potential but the execution is lacking. Even the obviously nostalgic and more jokey moments don't quite work, but with better writing (and editing) they would have worked. The performances don't even seem particularly convincing on the whole.
All that said, it's just about interesting enough to keep me watching so it's not a total loss.
It just feels 'off' - and I don't mean as some TNG nostalgia trip either, it's just that the writing just isn't quite there. It mostly lacks 'spark' and good pacing. I can see the potential but the execution is lacking. Even the obviously nostalgic and more jokey moments don't quite work, but with better writing (and editing) they would have worked. The performances don't even seem particularly convincing on the whole.
All that said, it's just about interesting enough to keep me watching so it's not a total loss.
Also – would the original Defiant's cloaking device have been public knowledge, even years later? Whereas everyone knows Klingon Birds-of-Prey can cloak.
I think it would be pretty hard to hide the Defiants cloaking device given how often it cloaked immediately off of the docking ring of DS9 and the completely public promenade
It's a weather balloon.
Scans or it didn't happen.
It did, but it’s battery was frelled, so it only worked off the mains on DS9 after O’Brien Jury-rigged some Nokia charging cables together. That’s why we still can’t see it on the docking ring in some wide shots…
The original cloak was Romulan property. They'd probably want it back at some point if they gave the Federation a second cloak (although, it brings up the question of why the Klingons never demanded their Bird of Prey back).
Also, the Treaty of Algeron seems to still be in effect, so Geordi talking about treaty violations by putting the cloak on the Titan tracks with the Federation not having cloaking tech even after the fall of the Romulan Star Empire, meaning the Romulan Free State still enforces it.
Or the Federation is just the good guys. They don't go sneaking around.
Yeah, but 1) there are lots baddies that might use a cloak, so standard procedure should always include general scans for cloaked ships, and 2) the Titan comes in full speed, all systems up and running, and only then cloaks while within eyesight (not even "visual range") of the station - that would certainly alert the two ships to scan for cloaked ships.
I don't have any problems with any of the performances outside of Vadic.
As for the writing, I think that is due to this being effectively "season 1" for the writers of these episodes, given the turnover PIC has experienced.
And I think the pacing issue is probably due to the serialization: if you don't have to write a beginning, middle, and end to a story for each episode, some of them can meander.
Knowing the Klingons they probably viewed Kruge's ship as a reminder of their failure and disowned it.
The Bird of Prey had been in the water for a hundred years. I doubt it could fly. Asking the ship back would mean they would have to admit that a Klingon agent took the Grissom.
The only negative thing I have to say about this season so far was on full display at the beginning of this episode: Vadic is cartoonish. Overwrought, killing random crew members who irritate her. Smoking. Dark lighting.
She’s as subtle as a bag of quarters to the face.
Given the choice, I'll take the bag of quarters.
The episode for me was okay, but don't see why rank it so high other than all the fanservice/memberberries in it which seems to be all Trek wins with anymore.
Give me some story. The characters I love.
Give me some goddamn light!
Aspects also feels too SW than ST with near instant travel between locations. Inliked it better when high-warp travel between planets was implied to take hours or days helped keep the notion that space is really fucking big. Unless the Museum and the Vault are in bith in binary system or something that shouldn't warp back and forth between them inside and hour. But I'm getting but picky.
It's not terrible, just still don't feel it and don't see why so many ar so ga-ga over it.
It's better than S1 and S2 but the last round on/at the toilet with food poisoning is better than the first too, so....
It tickles the feels.
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