Vadic makes a Roger Moore James Bond villain look downright understated. That said, it's Hunny Bunny. She won't chill out until she's good and ready to chill out.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x06 - "The Bounty"
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HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT NAME!Martha hasn't been mentioned...
It was mentioned a bit earlier in the thread and I had shot it down but yes, Robert Meyer Burnett was talking about this episode when he was discussing the connection with the book 'Star Trek The Return'. I don't remember it in the book though. Kirk was beamed away by a Romulan - Borg group. I don't remember him at Daystrom. Anyone?
For old times sakeAfter what we saw at Daystrom, I was expecting this at the end!
I thought we saw Lore's body at the station because we saw B4 in Picard season 1 at the institute.
Martha hasn't been mentioned...
not yet!
Christ, not this again!
Didn't the camera cut to the body when B4 was mentioned?
She's clearly under duress and projects that through her erratic behavior.
I hate the way Marina Sirtis is being used. First, she gets to whine about being left home with the baby while hubby is out drinking with a friend. Then, she gets held hostage for leverage over hubby.
It’s like, what are the worst two tropes for female characters? Great, let’s use both of them, and give the actress nothing else to do.
I also think this, “The baddies are up to something bad! We have to find out what it is and stop them!” thing shouldn’t drag on to the point where there are only four episodes left in the season. I’d like to know what the threat is more than five minutes before it’s neutralized. Whatever it turns out to be at this point, it’s going to be an interesting threat for too short a time.
It’s like, what are the worst two tropes for female characters? Great, let’s use both of them, and give the actress nothing else to do.
I also think this, “The baddies are up to something bad! We have to find out what it is and stop them!” thing shouldn’t drag on to the point where there are only four episodes left in the season. I’d like to know what the threat is more than five minutes before it’s neutralized. Whatever it turns out to be at this point, it’s going to be an interesting threat for too short a time.
Maybe more than one.Somehow, somewhere in that facility, there must be the body of someone named Dylan Hunt at Daystrom.
That's my fear after this episode. If it isn't clear by now what is going on, then it could end up being resolved by some miraculous flash drive that shows up in episode 9.
OK, I'm ultra confused by the revelation that S-31 are holding an alive James T. Kirk. This has got to be one of the biggest revelations in the history of Trek-dom, and Riker just walks on by. What exactly are they doing with him? Is he in permanent stasis? That's pretty creepy and downright cruel. I mean, there has to be a reason they have him on ice. I guess it's probably related to why they have Picard's old revived body as well.
Was it stasis?
It appeared that Agnes only pulled out the draw with B4s body. I don't think there was any mention of Lore.
My least favorite episode in an otherwise very good season. I thought all of the Easter eggs/memberberries brought it down a bit. The episode concocted bizarre logic in order to justify them. I thought the Professor Moriarty appearance was very odd -- especially using flashbacks of Encounter at Farpoint to establish how to get by him. If the show wants to include some flashbacks to older episodes in the franchise, I think there were other parts the season where that could've been far more effective (the Wolf 359 speech), but, here I don't think it worked. Why do I need to be shown clips from a 35+ year old episode for this short few seconds? It added nothing to the moment.
I'm very confused over why Daystrom station has Kirk's remains. It's established that it's a place that holds some of Starfleet's most secret tech -- how does Kirk's remains relate to that? Also a little disappointed over why Picard's remains are what was taken. While it's yet to be explained as to why that was the case, I'm a tad underwhelmed by that. But we'll see how it's handled in upcoming episodes.
Overall, I thought the story took a very strange turn in this episode and I'm left more baffled than I already was.
I'm very confused over why Daystrom station has Kirk's remains. It's established that it's a place that holds some of Starfleet's most secret tech -- how does Kirk's remains relate to that? Also a little disappointed over why Picard's remains are what was taken. While it's yet to be explained as to why that was the case, I'm a tad underwhelmed by that. But we'll see how it's handled in upcoming episodes.
Overall, I thought the story took a very strange turn in this episode and I'm left more baffled than I already was.
Yeah, I agree I should check out that sequence again. But using a mostly non-functional, only partially integrated, totally novel, Soong-synth-hybrid AI as your security system seems worse than other options.
I did check out that Voyager episode (at least the transcript). They don't say the frequencies aren't monitored, but the cloak is easily penetrated once Voyager knows to look for it. So I guess the cloak would stand up until someone knows to look, which makes it doubly dumb to warp in and only then cloak.
Exactly, just a few extra second's of thought put into the sequences would have made all the difference to many of my issues.
Yeah, I am disliking Vadic more and more each episode (and not in a Kai Winn sort of way). I am hoping what the powers that be have hinted at is true, that there is more to her to be revealed that will make her a better character. I don't really see that actually working, but I can still hope.
Yeah, it is a little too drawn out for me too. Maybe they are worried that revealing the plot earlier would make it too easy for our heroes to thwart. But I would think that once you have the whole "Changelings have infiltrated Starfleet and we can't trust anyone" established, then you should be able to justify most other obstacles/challenges. Our guys are completely on their own this time (and not just because they are the "only ship in the quadrant").
True, but use of a cloak is not standard Stafleet operational procedure.
Yeah really weird that everyone but them seems to know about Section 31.
They might show how she got captured, but it might have been nice to work in some more scenes with Troi in the previous episodes. Then again, maybe there was an availability issue with Sirtis. Maybe she didn't have the time to be featured in the larger plots.
Maybe it was a bad idea to have shown this. For me, it basically overshadowed the episode's main plot.
Why didn't they use the Defiant's cloaking device? It's more up to date than the old Klingon one.
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