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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x06 - "The Bounty"

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Good ep.

Had to read about some of the things at the Daystrom Center as they went by so quickly I missed them.

Will we ever know what happened with Seven and Raffi?

A beautiful scene with Jack and Seven about Voyager.

How fast does Vadic’s ship go as she had time to pu Troi (if it is Troi ) and make it back to the Museum?
 
Good ep.

Had to read about some of the things at the Daystrom Center as they went by so quickly I missed them.

Will we ever know what happened with Seven and Raffi?

A beautiful scene with Jack and Seven about Voyager.

How fast does Vadic’s ship go as she had time to pu Troi (if it is Troi ) and make it back to the Museum?

They did an audiobook/play that fits between s1 and s2 with Raffi and Seven, but haven’t heard it yet so can’t comment as to quality. It’s the actors themselves in the parts though.
 
I did watch the episode again and I think I was a little harsh yesterday. I still think there was a little too much fan service. I still think that we introduced or reintroduced a lot of characters and they got shortchanged. I still think it’s strange that so many events could happen in the episode and that we’re able to intro characters and have that much fanservice and still feel slow. At the same time, I think there’s a lot of good character moments here for Seven, Geordi, Sidney and Jack in particular. And some nicer smaller moments for Shaw.

I think as we enter the home stretch here, my biggest concern is the number of characters that need to be serviced in that time: Picard, Seven, Raffi, Jack, Riker, Geordi, Worf, Troi, Beverly, DataLoreLalB4Soong, Shaw, Vadic, Sydney and Alandra. Not to mention any new characters they’re going to introduce in the last four or any legacy cameos they’re going to drop in.

With 14 already existing characters and likely additional guests and cameos on the way, I really hope that we can focus more on those characters and less on the minutae going forward.
 
So why Jack and why Picard's body? Is Irumodic syndrome a red herring, or is it somehow the reason Picard's body and Jack are valuable to the changelings?

So..... Jack Crusher just stole the cloaking device inside of an hour and installed it on the Titan and no one noticed?

This was weird. Maybe because they were on the Titan, they didn't get pinged by the alarm. Geordi said that all of Starfleet would be signaled by it being removed so it kind of doesn't make much sense that the whole museum including him weren't immediately alerted.

This episode transitioned me from fanboy joy to worry that the whole mystery is going to be as bad as a crying Kelpian boy.
 
So I just confirmation from one of the CGI artists that the NX Refit was indeed the Enterprise. That’s a bit sad for me as I was hoping it was the Endeavour so the Enterprise novels would still work. With this news, those books are out and won’t be continuing in the future.
I thought she was decommissioned and sent to the Smithsonian in the novels? Troi even mentions that in These are the voyages
 
I'm now reading Troi

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Soong Type Android Body?
 
  • If you take the events of Nemesis as canon,

What?!?!

I’m so bored of all the discussion of whether Disco, Lower Decks, Prodigy are canon but I didn’t realise there are people who will say nemesis isn’t.

I guess it’s the confusion between “canon” and “stuff I like”

  • Since they have to steal the HMS Bounty's cloaking device, I guess that answers the question of whether the Romulans ever replaced the Defiant's cloak for the invasion of Cardassia after the original Defiant was destroyed.

This doesn’t answer anything. If the Romulans loaned another one to the second defiant then it was loaned under a treaty for a specific purpose. At that point you’d obviously have to give it back if you were decommissioning the ship.
 
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Two points from the discussion:

1. About D7’s etc being there and what makes them notable it could just be that they were enemy ships that were captured. There are plenty of things in museums now that are in the museum because they are old and part of history, they don’t need to have belonged to anyone notable.

2. I might have to rewatch it but everyone seems to be saying Daystrom is a S31 facility which isn’t what I got from it at all. I thought when asked what was kept there the answer was “lots of 31’s stuff”. It might be that 31 was exposed/disbanded and they had to put everything somewhere.
 
I liked the use of TFF's "A Busy Man" in the soundtrack in the "Data" scene at the end. It was used quite heavily in Nemesis (as well as appearing in all the Goldsmith-scored TNG films), particularly in Data's wake scene, so it's quite fitting to be used here at his kinda-rebirth.
 
I got so sad when Seven was reminiscing her time at Voyager. I think what brought tears to my eyes was when she talked fondly of them and said they were once a family. I got the feeling she feels nostalgic and misses the Voyager crew 20 years after returning to Earth. This is what happens in life all the time. The people you get familia with may distant from you in yeas time. It happens during high school, workplace, family, childhood friends, etc. I think its safe to say once the crew hit home, they moved on with their separate lives. Harry is most likely a commander or captain by now. Chakotay and Seven obviously didn't work out so they're not going to see each other often but I'm sure they separated on amicable terms anyway. Belanna and Tom are most likely grandparents by now raising human children with bumpy foreheads due to their distant Klingon lineage. Tuvok is probably settled in Vulcan with his wife and kids. Neelix is still in the Delta quadrant still giving Starfleet information. Janeway is an admiral who is likely busy beyond our comprehension. I guess Seven felt left out and decided to join the rangers and now...Starfleet. She's looking for another "family". Im not a fan of the writers bringing in too much nostalgic characters but I would love to see Janeway and Seven again.
 
Definitely a slow episode but I was thrilled to see so many predictions from this forum be proven correct. The writing was not great in this episode, 4 was excellent and 5 was pretty good but this one was very slow, they could have accomplished the whole episode in 20 minutes. There was definitely a lot of nostalgia but, that's why I personally have come to have such a great attachment to trek so I cannot devalue the nostalgia. It was unbelievably comforting to see Data in uniform - despite seeing Spiner all the time as various members of the Soong family. I was also relieved that Will didn't die.

It does seem like irumodic syndrome is important to the changelings somehow given their choice of objects to steal so, I am happy that the plot remains elusive but worry that it may not deliver. (I fear a deus ex machina on the horizon). Nevertheless, I'll suspend my worries until the series is over and I can analyze it as a whole. I do wish they'd release the episodes all at once though. I really don't care for the insulting return to network tv making me wait.
 
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