Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x06 - "The Bounty"

[Richard S. Ta]

I loved this episode. Maybe my favourite overall since the season started, but so far there hasn't been a dud.

It may sound really weird, but I got tingles when Worf and Raffi were doing the debrief. it felt so TNG to have someone stood at the end of a long table, explaining things in front of a screen, whilst everyone else sits and debates what they should do.

I got a little choked up seeing Seven look at the Voyager too.

Did I spot the NX-01 refit at the museum or are my eyes failing me?

Kirk's body... if there was ever an opportunity to drag 90 year old Shat back into Trek for one last spin, there it was. I'm sort of glad they didn't though. But then I'm sort of confused why they are storing the bodies of Enterprise Captains at Daystrom in the first place...

 

[Citiprime]

• I thought the implication from "M510" is that Daystrom hadn't abandoned autonomous AI after the disaster of the M5, and the M510 is the five hundredth and tenth iteration of an autonomous control system that they had merged with Data's, Lore's, and B4's positronic systems. Lower Decks already sorta implies that the Texas Class starships are at least partially based on the M5 technology, given that the control displays mimic the TOS M5.
• If you take the events of Nemesis as canon, and the idea that the Federation's adversaries were stealing DNA samples of famous Starfleet officials to clone them, I could see it setting off paranoia and possibly moving elements of Starfleet Intelligence/Section 31 to retrieve Kirk's body from Veridian III.
• I've always been curious as to the status of the Genesis Device post-Search for Spock. Arguably, it would be the galactic equivalent of possessing a weapon of mass destruction, since you could threaten the obliteration of an entire planet's ecosystem with it, and maybe it could be used as a deterrent like nuclear weapons are in present-day. Although, given what's stated in canon, a single starship can already do that with photon torpedoes.
• Since they have to steal the HMS Bounty's cloaking device, I guess that answers the question of whether the Romulans ever replaced the Defiant's cloak for the invasion of Cardassia after the original Defiant was destroyed.
• Is that the real Deanna or is it a Changleing Deanna? I've been waiting to see if any of the OG TNG cast will be revealed as having been killed and replaced by Changelings.
• I do wonder if the Female Founder will ever be referenced or have some part in this. She's presumably still in a Federation prison for war crimes.
• Since the USS New Jersey is an original TOS Constitution Class ship, it implies that the Strange New Worlds/Discovery Enterprise will eventually be refitted into her TOS version at some point in history, instead of the Disco-Prise being the retconned version of what the Constitution Class always looked like.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

What's the D7 at the museum? Any special relevance or is it just there for cools?

 

[Lord Garth]

In honor of "memberberries", I've changed my avatar to fit the 1990s. (EDIT: Back to the 21st Century now!)

What's the D7 at the museum? Any special relevance or is it just there for cools?

A little from Column A, a little from Column B. It had to have been captured in some unaccounted battle.

 

[Saul]

What's the D7 at the museum? Any special relevance or is it just there for cools?

Was wondering that too. Could it be a reference to some novel?

Twenty-five years ago I first heard the term fanservice. It was a promise at the end of each episode of Neon Genesis Evangelion that the next episode would have "more fanservice!" (aka cartoon T&A) Now it's not even red-underlined in my browser and being used to describe Star Trek. The world is strange.

Agreed.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Is it really okay to keep stolen ships museums?

I dunno. Maybe the Klingon's just don't care?

It's interesting how PIC continues to really lean into the visual language of pre-DSC Trek while DSC and SNW continue to do their own thing... The Connie I would have thought would be the SNW version, but there it was in glorious recreated Berman style CGI, a 1960s Connie.

 

[The Rock]

The motherfucking Genesis Device!!! Holy shittttttttttttttttt!

 

[Captain_Amasov]

What's the D7 at the museum? Any special relevance or is it just there for cools?

Probably Kronos One. I'd imagine it'd fit the bill of "legendary" starship since it was part of the first steps towards peace between the Federation and the Klingon Empire.

 

[RuleofAcuisition17]

Museums do loan things to eachother.

Don't see why it wouldn't be the case with entire ships in the future, either. The Bounty gets kept as it's lost for centuries and recovered eventually.

Excellent episode aside from the glaring plot hole of "when did the Shrike get here?" but rule of cool and getting the plot moving applies well here.

Good episode as always, great fun to watch.

 

[Sparky]

Kirk’s body…next to a genesis weapon is just a fun little easter egg right. Matalas and the team wouldn’t do it…would they. I mean…Shatners only 92…Pine has said recently he wants to play Kirk again…there’s also Mr. generic over on SNW. Nah…

Imagine, the networked fleet gets neutralized in one fell swoop by the changelings on Frontier Day, all hope looks lost as the Changelings start wrecking shit. Out of nowhere, the ships from the fleet museum arrive to save the day. Picard captains the Enterprise D or E (I'm assuming that's what is in the hanger 12 that Geordi's daughter mentioned. Seven is captaining Voyager, Worf on the Defiant, Riker and Troi are in the newly decommissioned Enterprise F, and then motherfuggin JTK pops out of the Project Phoenix chamber and captains the NCC-1701-A.

A man can dream....

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Let's call this new being Questor.

I’d actually love that and I wish they had.

 

[thribs]

So is Daystrom station and the fleet museum in the same system? That could explain the quick travel

 

[jaime]

Imagine, the networked fleet gets neutralized in one fell swoop by the changelings on Frontier Day, all hope looks lost as the Changelings start wrecking shit. Out of nowhere, the ships from the fleet museum arrive to save the day. Picard captains the Enterprise D or E (I'm assuming that's what is in the hanger 12 that Geordi's daughter mentioned. Seven is captaining Voyager, Worf on the Defiant, Riker and Troi are in the newly decommissioned Enterprise F, and then motherfuggin JTK pops out of the Project Phoenix chamber and captains the NCC-1701-A.

A man can dream....

We may even have two Picards to have the D and the E (wherever that went) by that point.
Cheesy as heck, mashing action figures together silly, but… this whole season has been mashing together action figures done *well* to a certain extent. Closing plot holes/fan questions as it goes (what happened to the Bounty? Why didn’t anyone make another Genesis device? Did they just leave Kirk’s body on Vdn3? Etc etc.)
The first two seasons of Picard and SNW too also have that slightly high-class AO3 fanfic vibe anyway.

It’s working so far.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Soong android called himself M5-10

That’s another 12 monkeys reference according to Twitter. There’s a virus in that show designated M5-10

Richard Daystrom invented a super computer called the M5 in TOS The Ultimate Computer.

Is it really okay to keep stolen ships museums?

I dunno. Maybe the Klingon's just don't care?

It's interesting how PIC continues to really lean into the visual language of pre-DSC Trek while DSC and SNW continue to do their own thing... The Connie I would have thought would be the SNW version, but there it was in glorious recreated Berman style CGI, a 1960s Connie.

Well the crew was alive when Kirk took the Bounty, so that's piracy, but the pirates abondonded ship and the bounty was salvaged a hundred years later from the sea bed of San Fran sisco Bay.

Do Klingons respect interstellar laws or maritime laws about salvage?

 

[Romulan_spy]

Bit disappointed Shaw turns into Barclay when meeting Geordi....I still hope they don't keep Shaw as the shy/pathetic/annoying little brother that no-one really listens to...hope he gets a few hero moments

He got a pretty big hero moment in "no win scenario".

 

[thribs]

So I just confirmation from one of the CGI artists that the NX Refit was indeed the Enterprise. That’s a bit sad for me as I was hoping it was the Endeavour so the Enterprise novels would still work. With this news, those books are out and won’t be continuing in the future.

 

[Verteron]

So I just confirmation from one of the CGI artists that the NX Refit was indeed the Enterprise. That’s a bit sad for me as I was hoping it was the Endeavour so the Enterprise novels would still work. With this news, those books are out and won’t be continuing in the future.

I'm not specifically aware of the events in the Enterprise novels, but the novel cannon has always been separate. Just because something contradictory happens in the shows has never stopped writers from continuing their own stories.

 

[thribs]

I'm not specifically aware of the events in the Enterprise novels, but the novel cannon has always been separate. Just because something contradictory happens in the shows has never stopped writers from continuing their own stories.

I know but they have to follow the canon of the live action shows. That’s why the TNG/DS9 novels ended with Coda.

 

[Tomalak]

After giving it some thought, I think marketing wise it was very odd to include Moriarty in the trailer.... Given his short (though effective) appearance, wouldn't it have worked a whole lot better if the audience had been surprised by him, as we were of Ro Laren of the Changelings, which were kept a secret to great effect..?

On the contrary, it was a brilliant bit of misdirection that had us all speculating down the wrong path for months.

It was a case of dropping a minor tease that served to cover up the much greater surprises.

It was also a very early indication that this season would be extremely comfortable giving us very deep cuts from TNG.

 

[Evil Robert]

No Peanut Hamper!?!?

Lol

Well I guess she's broken out by now lol