Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x06 - "The Bounty"
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I felt that was too fan servicy for it's own good. There were a few good scenes, like Seven talking about Voyager or LaForge and Sidney's relationship, but it felt like chess pieces being moved around. Actually I would say this episode felt like what last weeks episode could have been, the transitional episode between act 1 and the next act. While last week gave me some great emotions, this week was a bit distracting with all the fan service and basically bringing the entire TNG cast back on screen at once. I also feel like the plot has become even more muddled (What are they doing with Picard's remains, and why) and the Moriarty bit ended up being a lot smaller than I was led to believe. I still think it was a pretty good transitional episode, but I don't need to worry about overhyping it this week.
This episode gets a 6.5, but I'll generously round up because the character work, especially for Seven, did get an emotion out of me.
7
This episode gets a 6.5, but I'll generously round up because the character work, especially for Seven, did get an emotion out of me.
7
They must have removed his body from Viridian III.Titan's transporter begins with the TOS sound
Genesis II
And Holy Fuck indeed!
Weakest episode since the first, but still fairly enjoyable. I mostly concur with @tomalak301.
Anyone else catch the name of one of the Starfleet ships searching Daystrom? Sternbach. Love it!
Really wished I liked this episode, but initial reaction is in the 5-6.5 range (had background noise that made me miss some dialogue, so I expect a better viewing on my 2nd watch).
Easily the worst episode of the season for me. Not the worst episode of Picard, but likely in my bottom 5.
Easily the worst episode of the season for me. Not the worst episode of Picard, but likely in my bottom 5.
Or it's a Kirk clone
And here are the ships!
The VFX looked like a video game for most of these ships. And why did they forget the registry number?
Wow, just wow. The best episode of the season yet? And the best of anything Star Trek since perhaps "In a Mirror, Darkly"?
Fan service done well!
20/10... just showing a TOS Connie with no Discoprise in sight... I can see why Robert Meyer Burnett was so happy describing this one. Plus the Kirk remains potentially referencing The Return novel...
The HMS Bounty cloaking device!
Is Irumodic Syndrome really the only way to explain Jack's visions? Genesis spotted, but not the target of the theft... Picard's original body is. Ahh must be the theorized Borg connection?
Nice development of "the next generation" with even some potential shipping... 7/Raffi reunion not painful. Geordi! Riker and Troi captured by Vadic!
Data + Lore + Lal(!!!) + B4 + Soong... that's a great way to bring Data back in a different way.
Moriarty but not ~that~ Moriarty. Interesting way to do it.
Gotta put the subtitles on for the rewatch to nail down what exactly they said about Section 31.
BTW, the TOS Connie is the USS New Jersey. Terry Matalas is from NJ... Now that's getting to make your own Easter egg...
Fan service done well!
20/10... just showing a TOS Connie with no Discoprise in sight... I can see why Robert Meyer Burnett was so happy describing this one. Plus the Kirk remains potentially referencing The Return novel...
The HMS Bounty cloaking device!
Is Irumodic Syndrome really the only way to explain Jack's visions? Genesis spotted, but not the target of the theft... Picard's original body is. Ahh must be the theorized Borg connection?
Nice development of "the next generation" with even some potential shipping... 7/Raffi reunion not painful. Geordi! Riker and Troi captured by Vadic!
Data + Lore + Lal(!!!) + B4 + Soong... that's a great way to bring Data back in a different way.
Moriarty but not ~that~ Moriarty. Interesting way to do it.
Gotta put the subtitles on for the rewatch to nail down what exactly they said about Section 31.
BTW, the TOS Connie is the USS New Jersey. Terry Matalas is from NJ... Now that's getting to make your own Easter egg...
I'm not done with the episode yet, but yeah, it's the first one that isn't quite working for me. It's the first one that feels like they listed all the callbacks they wanted, then worked backwards to invent logic to fit them in. The inclusion of Moriarty, for example, barely made sense.
Ouch. The first 8 that I'm giving this season. Everything else has been a 9 and up.
Still good, though, and kept me in suspense throughout. More thoughts during a time when it's not 3:24 in the morning.
BTW, I agree with Jack Crusher. The Enterprise-A (and the Enterprise-Refit by extension) is my favorite too. Of course, most people here who are familiar with my posts already know this anyway. I just figured I'd point it out all the same.
Jack's a history buff just like his father.
Still good, though, and kept me in suspense throughout. More thoughts during a time when it's not 3:24 in the morning.
BTW, I agree with Jack Crusher. The Enterprise-A (and the Enterprise-Refit by extension) is my favorite too. Of course, most people here who are familiar with my posts already know this anyway. I just figured I'd point it out all the same.
Jack's a history buff just like his father.
Yeah, that took me out of it a bit. Especially the lackluster model quality of the New Jersey (whatever ship that is...they couldn't use a Connie name already established?) when we've all seen fan-built models that look far better. But the Enterprise-A looked spot on at least. And super cool to see the NX-Refit made canon.
Ok, so we all guessed wrong. The weapon stolen wasn't Moriarty or Lore, but Picard's dead human body. I have no idea what the changelings could want with it. Also, it seems unlikely that Starfleet would let Daystrom be be guarded by an unstable android.
So are we to assume now that Picard's mother had irumodic syndrome, and it passed to Jean-Luc and now Jack? Also, Picard said he "lived with irumodic syndrome for decades" which would mean from 2379 (Nemesis) to his human body death in 2399. The problem is, Dr. Benayoun in Season 1 in 2399 outright said that Picard had a defect in his brain that could turn into irumodic syndrome, not that he had irumodic syndrome already (much less for decades). Seems like a rather major continuity error.
So Jack has early onset irumodic syndrome? How does that explain his augment style powers in killing the changelings? How come Jack isn't wondering about that and no one is talking about it? Did Beverly augment Jack to try to overcome the irumodic syndrome?
How long has Vadic had Deanna? It must've been between the battle of the Ryton Nebula and the current raid on Daystrom, otherwise she would've used Deanna as a bargaining chip in the nebula. Why didn't she get Kestra too? I guess we'll find out next week.
I know we have to take into account the speed advances introduced in Prodigy, but the instantaneous speed times here were a bit unbelievable, and also that the installation of a century old Klingon cloaking device can also take place within that timeframe. Since the whole heist took about an hour, this episode presumably played out in real time like in the tv show 24, which makes the amount of events that supposedly happened in this hour even more unbelievable.
So are we to assume now that Picard's mother had irumodic syndrome, and it passed to Jean-Luc and now Jack? Also, Picard said he "lived with irumodic syndrome for decades" which would mean from 2379 (Nemesis) to his human body death in 2399. The problem is, Dr. Benayoun in Season 1 in 2399 outright said that Picard had a defect in his brain that could turn into irumodic syndrome, not that he had irumodic syndrome already (much less for decades). Seems like a rather major continuity error.
So Jack has early onset irumodic syndrome? How does that explain his augment style powers in killing the changelings? How come Jack isn't wondering about that and no one is talking about it? Did Beverly augment Jack to try to overcome the irumodic syndrome?
How long has Vadic had Deanna? It must've been between the battle of the Ryton Nebula and the current raid on Daystrom, otherwise she would've used Deanna as a bargaining chip in the nebula. Why didn't she get Kestra too? I guess we'll find out next week.
I know we have to take into account the speed advances introduced in Prodigy, but the instantaneous speed times here were a bit unbelievable, and also that the installation of a century old Klingon cloaking device can also take place within that timeframe. Since the whole heist took about an hour, this episode presumably played out in real time like in the tv show 24, which makes the amount of events that supposedly happened in this hour even more unbelievable.
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Man things are starting to ramp up. We're literally four weeks away from the finale and apparently 48 hours from Frontier Day so which means i betcha anything 7 and 8 and 9 and 10 are each going to cover the span of one day.
Ah if it's his original body, maybe he'll be transferred back, revived, and cured at the end
Lal was always part of Data since he took all her memories at the end of that episode.
Everyone knows 31 now, they seem to be an official branch again
And its registry 1975 is his birth year
NCC-1975... checks Memory Alpha, yep, the birth year of Terry Matalas. Well played...
The fact that Daystrom has James T. Kirk's body in storage was one of the biggest geek-out moments I've had in a long time.
What time frame was the NX-Refit cause my eyes must have glossed over it.
And he grew up in New Jersey. Makes sense. Could have been a different class ship though. Or at least a better looking CGI model.
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