The Terry Matalas as Star Trek Showrunner Petition

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by TerryTrek, Mar 11, 2023.

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  1. Ianburns252

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    I get what you mean most weeks you could bet on a solid 6-8 out of 10 and a consistency of story telling

    Sometimes it would hit 8-10 (bits of TNG and DS9, Scorpion and Year of Hell, City on the Edge and Balance of Terror) but the lows were never huge lows.

    Defo get that certain bits of New Trek are very different to Berman Era - especially the more overt emoting - and how that differs from the stoicism that was part of what appealed to many (including you) and the change of style after 10 years or so is jarring but we have such a variety now at least near all are being catered too.
     
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    After episodes like "DEADLOCK", where the bridge is damaged badly enough they couldn't enter for 3 days at the end and how every deck was battered and damaged, but the very next episode, the ship is in prisitine, just off the assembly line condition?

    Or even "CARETAKER", the pilot... it was damaged hard when it was brought to the Delta Quadrant, but was clean as a whistle by the end of the same episode. With many crew dead from the trip. (It's honestly my only quibble with an otherwise excellent pilot.)

    Or "ALLIANCES", where the constant attacks by the Kazon beat them hard enough that Chakotay even said, "We'll be lucky to get warp drive online again." But again, pristine before the episode even hits the halfway mark.

    Yeah, that's very likely.
     
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    I would be lying if I said that the over-emotion appeals to me as well as the stoicism. I mean, we had that in spades in TOS where Kirk and McCoy could hyper-emote, and Spock provided the more straight faced, stoic, approach.

    It makes me sad, a little, that emotions were so eschewed in TNG as to be special (i.e. Family) and thus should only be brought out in special moments.
     
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  4. Ianburns252

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    It is a different style of emoting though as TOS was done in a stage/theatrical manner Vs what does feel more natural if maybe a touch too contemporary in Disco

    Personally I do like the approach in Disco as it feels genuine and human - you could also argue that Burnham is how she is after being Vulcan raised and trying to eschew them for so long that when she finally starts to let herself become more human again the emotions flood more than someone who had spent their life doing emotions regularly
     
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    Yes. I should clarify my point that I mean TOS was more open to way more variety of emotions, especially from the main character, allowing emotions that were theatrical, but at least represented the full spectrum of human experience.
    I do appreciate the more genuine approach, but more than that I appreciate the honesty. These are not people who are all perfectly put together avatars. These are people who struggle, who hurt and are honest about their hurts, who want something a little different at times.

    TNG era presented a vision of perfect humanity that was sterile in it's uprightness. It was idealized, like if every shot was made based upon the perfect framing device from a textbook, so that every shot is perfect with no flaws, or characteristics to distinguish it.

    I supposed that appeals to many different people. I suppose I'm the odd one out that doesn't find that style very appealing. I guess I lived that life of prim, proper, and respectable and found it deeply troubling when people failed to live up to those perfectionist expectations.

    And before anyone goes, "Fireproof! We don't want them to be perfect; we want them to be professional!" let me be clear-there were times when TNG got it right. But most, it lacked that honesty that I want from human interactions.

    Others may love the stiff upper lip approach; I can't stomach it.
     
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    Agree with that 100%
     
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  7. Commander K

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    Excellent so far in every way.

    Although still want to wait until the final end credits roll....this could all be a holo-deck simulation ran in the 32nd century with Tilly saying 'end program' ;)
     
  8. cal888

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    Have the tin foil hats on standby...

    There was one scene yet to be filmed when Robert Meyer Burnett watched the initial cut in July 2022, so there's always the risk of one last bait and switch. :D

    And, there's apparently a post-credit scene for 310...
     
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    OMG!!!!!!!! SQWEEEE!!!!!! Captin 7 on TEH ENDERPRIZZZE!!!!! :luvlove:
     
  10. Mr Awe

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    Definitely more emotion in the current season of Picard than Berman era overall. Early on, I thought there was going to be too much melodrama. But I think they've balanced it nicely.

    You get the emotions, they have impact, they're meaningful in the story, but then they move on to something else. For me that works nicely as opposed to getting mired down in it.

    Like Picard and Riker's tiff. It was short, intense, and ultimately brought them closer together. Same with Picard and Ro. And they moved the plot forward too. Good stuff! Makes it feel like a rollercoaster ride with the ups and downs but you're always moving forward.
     
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  11. Commander K

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    5 home runs in a row Matalas, halfway to glory
     
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    Yup. So far, he's

    pretty much took abandoned ideas, but added and really made something far more and better out of them. I love this season and the nitpicks are fairly small.

    "time paradox" excepted; "temporal paradox" was easily understood by the masses decades ago.

    We've seen discarded ideas produced later on before, but not as often are they done in clever ways. Matalas has impressed the blank out of me from the get-go. Even with

    the surprise return and probable-death of Ro.

    unless she returns in section 31, having faked it.

    Happy Friday! :cool:

     
  14. Dukhat

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    Since they're decommissioning it, what do you think will happen? That she'll captain it right to the junkyard?;)
     
  15. Timofnine

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    The F is being decommissioned, but there are plenty more letters in the alphabet. I think that ‘G’ would be logical for the next Enteprise? No?
     
  16. Ianburns252

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    If it is the Enterprise G and Captain Snoop isn't on the bridge bustin a cap in some Borg bitchez ass and having custom rims on the nacelles then I will be sorely disappointed
     
  17. Dukhat

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    I don't think we're going to see the Enterprise-G. I think they're going to leave that up to our imaginations (like I wish they would have done with the F.) I think CBS's 'Enterprise' focus is going to be the SNW version.
     
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  18. Timofnine

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    Yeah, two Enterprises at once would not work well and be confusing, I didn’t think of that.
     
  19. Tuskin38

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    I don't think the -F is actually being decommissioned. It's part of the changeling infiltration (maybe sabotage) to get it home for Frontier Day.

    Terry did say in a tweet when the log first came out that there's no need to worry
     
  20. Dukhat

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    Still, CBS isn't going to make two concurrently running shows about a crew on the Enterprise.
     
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